Shooting a .41 rimfire Remington double derringer

ndnchf · September 26, 2021, 05:53:15 AM

I imagine very few, if any people today have seen an original Remington double derringer shooting original style black powder .41 rimfire shorts. Mine are original style copper rimfire cases that have been reprimed, then loaded with 12.0gr of 3F and an original style bullet. Contrary to what you may read on the internet, it is a formidable cartridge at card table range on a soft target. Check it out

Niederlander · September 26, 2021, 07:16:55 AM

Cool!

Trailrider · September 26, 2021, 01:12:24 PM

Curious to know how the cases were re-primed. I, too, would advise to stick with BP. The Navy Arms ammo put out a few years ago were, IMO (after chronographing against some earlier Remington ammo), too hot for use in the Rem O/U Double-Dee's! If the gun used in the demonstration had a "reinforced" hinge, it is a late Fourth Model. One must carefully check the hinges for cracks, especially on the left hinge, where it is counterbored for the screw head. The "reinforced" hinges are simply NOT undercut. These are the so-called "monobloc" hinges. The cracks are almost always the result of flipping the barrels back hard when opening them. See "Dr. William H. Elliot's Remington Double Deringer" by Drummond, Johnson, Williams & Barnard. Be interesting to know the stamping on the top of the barrels. Probably "REMINGTON ARMS - U.M.C.CO.ILION,N.Y."

ndnchf · September 26, 2021, 02:08:48 PM

I agree with staying with black powder. This is not a monoblock, but does have the stronger hinge. There is ongoing debate on model and variation definitions. But I believe this is a 4th model, 2nd variation. But regardless of what collectors may call it, its a late production and a lot of fun to shoot. No cracks in the hinge.

Dave T · September 27, 2021, 12:32:19 PM

ndnchf,

Love all the stuff you do. Thank you for posting your adventures and keep them coming.

Dave

ndnchf · September 27, 2021, 01:11:42 PM

Quote from: Dave T on September 27, 2021, 12:32:19 PM
ndnchf,

Love all the stuff you do. Thank you for posting your adventures and keep them coming.

Dave

Thanks Dave. I appreciate the kind words.
Steve

DeaconKC · September 29, 2021, 12:18:24 PM

Fun video, how does the Remington compare to shooting the Colt?

ndnchf · September 29, 2021, 02:20:40 PM

They are both a handful. But the Remington's extra weight makes it a little easier to handle.

Trailrider · September 29, 2021, 09:46:03 PM

Interesting gun. I presume it was refinished with a nickel plating. Does the serial number start with an "L" prefix, and numbers in the 9X,XXX ? Also, there should be some letters on the side of the locking lug, which would tell the month and year of manufacture. What I have never quite figured out is how one safely packs one of these guns with both barrels loaded. The oscillating firing pin is over the cartridge on one or the other barrels. Half-cock is fine...unless you drop the gun on the hammer spur, in which case the "dog" would probably shear and the gun would fire. Maybe with a piece of leather between the pin and the breech face, that would fall away when the gun is cocked?

ndnchf · September 30, 2021, 04:35:36 AM

The date code on the lug indicates May 1931. Yes, it has the L prefix number. Serial is L995XX. By modern standards, there really is no way to carry safely fully loaded.

Tuolumne Lawman · October 10, 2021, 10:27:30 AM

Just picked up a Remington .41 O/U Derringer with two original rounds. Well used but functional. Original grips, but one has top 1/4 broken off. If I keep it, i'll get some re-pop grips and try to find some Navy Arms ammo for it. I do, however, have a friend I am seeing this week that is interested at $300, but that is not certain.

ndnchf · October 10, 2021, 10:41:19 AM

Quote from: Tuolumne Lawman on October 10, 2021, 10:27:30 AM
Just picked up a Remington .41 O/U Derringer with two original rounds. Well used but functional. Original grips, but one has top 1/4 broken off. If I keep it, i'll get some re-pop grips and try to find some Navy Arms ammo for it. I do, however, have a friend I am seeing this week that is interested at $300, but that is not certain.

No photos???

Tuolumne Lawman · October 10, 2021, 01:13:56 PM

Yep, later today or tomorrow. Patience, Grasshopper

Tuolumne Lawman · October 10, 2021, 05:31:46 PM

Ooops, going back to seller. It has one side of the hinge cracked through! Maybe its a $50 as a paperweight!

ndnchf · October 10, 2021, 05:53:06 PM

Dang - that's too bad. But a very common problem too.

Fox Creek Kid · October 12, 2021, 02:54:20 PM

I Approve.

ammodave · October 12, 2021, 04:32:24 PM

Yancy Derringer would never approve of a Remington; he only carried Sharps 4 barrel pepper boxes.

ndnchf · October 12, 2021, 05:27:03 PM

How about the best of both worlds. A Remington 4-barrel derringer

Trailrider · October 12, 2021, 05:48:27 PM

Quote from: ndnchf on September 30, 2021, 04:35:36 AM
The date code on the lug indicates May 1931. Yes, it has the L prefix number. Serial is L995XX. By modern standards, there really is no way to carry safely fully loaded.

Is the gun gold plated, or is that just the light? I have made a piece of leather with a slot that fits over the firing pin and is thick enough that the pin doesn't stick through. When I cock the hammer, I can flick the leather off the pin.

ndnchf · October 12, 2021, 05:57:33 PM

Its nickel plated. Can you share a photo of your leather hammer thong?