Which Colt conversion?

Drydock · July 31, 2021, 07:56:17 PM

Here's one! https://www.gunbroker.com/item/906753243

Kent Shootwell · July 31, 2021, 08:29:20 PM

Mr. Smith, seems everyone has a few OTs except me and as you have the very one I'm most interested in and mostly it just sets around, lending it to me to play with seems very reasonable!

I could have it back to you in time frame that will surely be less then few months. I would even give you range reports! Such a deal, right!

Major 2 · July 31, 2021, 08:34:35 PM

If you want a Richards Type II Classic Firearms has them in stock

https://www.classicfirearms.com/cimarron-ca9052-richards-transition-8-45lc/

Kent Shootwell · July 31, 2021, 09:05:21 PM

You rabble rousers are trying to break my resolve! The 71/72 is the right calibre and the type two is the right pistol. Even the prices are good.

Coffinmaker · August 01, 2021, 10:16:31 AM

Kent

Just my Opine if you will. I found the Type II conversion to be quite "portly." Uberti/Cimarron increased the size of the gun to facilitate the 45 Colt chambering. To me, it doesn't have the "sleek" look of the correct size 1860. I had a pair and found them to be much to heavy for my liking and sold them on rather quickly.

Stupid People are still Hazardous to yer Health

Major 2 · August 01, 2021, 10:53:43 AM

I mentioned my Kenny Howell custom made Type 1..
I first used it at a SASS monthly , however the acting loading table SASS RO had a hissy over he could not SEE the cartridge rims
( proving 5 loaded )
It was a " panties in a wad " on going b*tch session whine with him , through the 5 stages.

Their game, their rules, I never took it back

Kent Shootwell · August 01, 2021, 05:56:11 PM

Coffin, So is the 44 calibre pistols the same size?
Major, that's pretty!

Major 2 · August 01, 2021, 08:24:03 PM

Thanks Kent

Coffin is going to say yes , and he will right, same frame .
They (Uberti) have the early issue of cracked forcing cones solved,
I have not heard of any issues in several years with 45's.

I had a 45 Schofield OT for several years and it was a fine shooter.
Because I had 44's it was my only 45, I traded it...

Long Johns Wolf · August 02, 2021, 02:21:09 AM

What Coffin said, .44 Colt is the way to go!
That's my action cartridge since 2011 in my conversions, never let me down.
Pictured my 4" barreled Centaure Long Cylinder Conversion.
Long Johns Wolf

Coffinmaker · August 02, 2021, 09:12:43 AM

Some Days

Some days is like walking into Starbucks, ordering a Skim Milk, Non Fat, Decaf Latte. "Why Bother"

Yep. Major 2 beat me to the draw . . . . for my own answer

Yep, When Uberti answered the call for the Type II Conversion, in their infinite wisdom, sized the gun up for 45 Colt and then offered all the cartridges on the same "Portly" Frame, Barrel and Grips assembly. And, as the caliber goes down, the weight of the gun goes up. Yech. Oh, and Icky Foo.

Stupid People are still Hazardous to yer Health

Kent Shootwell · August 02, 2021, 10:21:18 AM

Well a big man in a big land that rides a big horse on his big ranch needs a big gun that shoots big bullets! That's what Louie Lamore says, so with my big head, big hands, and big need for another pistol, a big gun with a big barrel is warranted.

Now to deal with the big problems of ordering one!

Major 2 · August 02, 2021, 01:28:53 PM

It is only maybe minute beefier ... and in 45 the weight is not even noticed...now in 38 its a anchor.
I prefer the Army grip, hence mine are so equipped...

lastly, I have dealt with Classic and they are stand up

Kent Shootwell · August 03, 2021, 03:36:06 PM

Thanks for all your thoughtful advice. A order has been placed.

Black River Smith · August 03, 2021, 07:06:43 PM

Kent,

I have been down and out for the last few days, since I last posted. I see your last posting, so did you stay with the 44 caliber or go a different direction? If so what caliber? Just curious.

Your offer would have been considered but since you already placed an order, it is now moot. You also live to far away.

Hope your choice is to your satisfaction and shooting skills, when it arrives

Kent Shootwell · August 03, 2021, 07:20:37 PM

45 Colt, mostly because it is available in a 1860 type two.
Rats! I really wanted to give your 44 a whirl! To far? Everything is far in the west, I even pack salt into the bases of bullets to preserve the meat till I can walk over to retrieve game.

Kent Shootwell · August 07, 2021, 11:29:54 AM

Up date: The pistol came from back East to the delivery truck in two days and the driver went to deliver it at 7:15 in the morning. Surprise no one was there to sign for it! New driver, I'm told so Monday another attempt will be made. This shop has been getting UPS pick up and delivery for years yet each new driver isn't told that the shop is open from noon till 7 PM six days a week.

Professor Marvel · August 07, 2021, 07:39:26 PM

Quote from: Kent Shootwell
This shop has been getting UPS pick up and delivery for years yet each new driver isn't told that the shop is open from noon till 7 PM six days a week.

Welcome to the brave New world of the 21st Century!

Delivery folks are so rushed by their taskmasters they don't have time to read anything like "hours" or "special instructions"
EVEN IF IT WAS NOTED ON THE PACKAGE, OR ARCHIVED IN THE DELIVERY SYSTEM

The delivery guys are neither told nor given proper written instructions... Just what fits on their little computer pad thingy...

And I know from experience the UPS guys have a set number of seconds they are given to deliver a package, which includes driving to the store, parking, RUNNING into the building, get the req'd signature, RUNING back to the truck, OMG He could not park in the yellow striped no parking zone right in front? Too bad. Traffic? Too bad. No parking at all? Too bad. So the driver is dinged. Exceeded his time.
Start of an already late delivery day. Not done by 5pm ? Too bad, keep going till truck is empty. Even if 9 pm. And since he is "anindependant contractor" ( new work rules dontcha know) he has no choice.

And the delivery times allowed? They are set by a stopwatch holding bean counter that did the route ONCE years ago, during times of no traffic, and deliberately design it so they park absolutely in front in no parking zones or illegally double or tripleparked, and assume that the delivery guy goes straight to the counter, no waiting for other people, and the counter person signs off immediately without taking time to examine the packages....

Ask me how I know.

At least we don't have flying cars
They would be crashing into the houses!

Oh, and Kent...
CONGRATS!!!
Hope you enjoy!

Yhs
Prof Grumbles

Kent Shootwell · August 10, 2021, 12:03:11 PM

Picked it up and after giving it the twice over shot it. The barrel cylinder gap is .008" and the bore took some wire brushing to clean up pretty good. Fit and finish is nice and lock timing is very good. Trigger pull is good to go the sights are just like everyone says (tiny). There was the burr on the recoil shield as I have been warned and I stoned it off thus voiding the warranty. Shooting at 15 paces with my 230 grain cowboy loads its only a dab high. Good enough for grouse hunting. I'm happy!

IMG_0761 by Oliver Sudden, on Flickr

Kent Shootwell · August 21, 2021, 11:46:05 PM

Additionally, the arbor was short and I calculated the amount and added a .035" disk so the wedge can be driven in with a plastic hammer with out binding the cylinder.
Today while doing a bit of Sharps shooting with buddy's they got out there wiz bang state of the art auto loaders to try hitting a 6" gong at 100 yards. I said I'll play with you. We took turns and called the impacts to guide each other in. Soon I found the hold and came very close for several shots but no hits. They both seemed to vary despite the modern sights and even a red dot on one gun. Then my dumb luck kicked in and I made a hit! We were all happy to see the gong swing so a few more attempts were made. Then I hit it again to my amazement! Having only two rounds left it was time to take my leave and go home. A good day.

dusty texian · August 22, 2021, 04:09:31 PM

Quote from: Kent Shootwell on August 10, 2021, 12:03:11 PM
Picked it up and after giving it the twice over shot it. The barrel cylinder gap is .008" and the bore took some wire brushing to clean up pretty good. Fit and finish is nice and lock timing is very good. Trigger pull is good to go the sights are just like everyone says (tiny). There was the burr on the recoil shield as I have been warned and I stoned it off thus voiding the warranty. Shooting at 15 paces with my 230 grain cowboy loads its only a dab high. Good enough for grouse hunting. I'm happy!
IMG_0761 by Oliver Sudden, on Flickr

Good looking pistol and target / group . On the Type Two , Is the rear sight a notch in the hammer like a cap n ball Colt ? I get along better with the V cut hammer sight than I do with the tiny rear barrel sight / bump on my Open Top . ,,,,DT