Standard Mfg 44-40

Started by hatman, June 14, 2021, 04:45:42 PM

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hatman

I just got off the phone with Shane at Standard Mfg.
He happily took my order for a 5 1/2" one piece grip Single Action in 44-40
It was about $100 more than their advertised 45 Colts with an 8-10 week lead time.
I'm a happy camper.  :)

Pettifogger

You only bought one?  For CAS you need two!

hatman

Well I got one in January (7 1/2" 45 Colt).  Will that work?   ;)

King Medallion

No, that won't work! Now ya gotta take two different caliber's of ammo! But I'm sure you know the difference twixt the two. Still, better go order another 44-40, to be safe.  ;) ;D
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Pettifogger

Anything will work.  But two different barrel lengths and two different calibers won't work well.  You need a third one to break the tie and make a usable pair.

hatman

Ya know, I tried to come up with a counter argument to yours, and so far I can't.   :P

wildman1

As long as you can tie your shoe laces you should have no difficulty using 2 or 3 calibers to shoot a Cas stage. I have done it with no problem.
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Quote from: Pettifogger on June 14, 2021, 05:53:35 PM
You only bought one?  For CAS you need two!

For SASS you need two. Not all CAS
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1 watched a shooter [he loaded his guns next to me] at the SE Regional years ago load his pistol ammo into his rifle. Trouble was they weren't the same caliber. Beep went off and he was fine until he cycled-or tried to cycle his rifle. 10 misses that quick of course he had a good time. Watched OlHenry shoot a stage at my club once and missed everything with his pistols. When he got to the unloading table he found out why, .44-40s don't shoot very accurately in a revolver chambered in .45colt, but they will chamber just fine. My first cas guns were all .45colt but I have bought a few in .45 Schofield and .44-40s [1873 and 1866 military rifles] in recent years.
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hatman

OK, so here's the REST of the story:

So three weeks after I ordered the 44-40 I got a call from my FFL that the gun is ready for pickup.
I went in Sat am and lo and behold, it's a 45 Colt.
I told my FFL to send it back.  (I have enough 45 Colts already.)

I wrote to Standard Mfg (Connecticut Shotgun) explaining the issue and their response this morning was:
Sorry for the miscommunication.  We're too busy making 45 Colts and it will be a long time, if ever, before we offer 44-40's.
We'll refund your money when we get the gun back.
Sigh.

But in the larger scheme of life, this is no big deal and otherwise known as a First World problem.
Life is good. 


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Quote from: hatman on July 12, 2021, 11:04:39 AM
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Life is good.

For any problem I say, in the big picture this is minor and temporary.  If the problem is really big, the picture just has to get bigger.  :)
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Major 2

" He happily took my order for a 5 1/2" one piece grip Single Action in 44-40.
It was about $100 more than their advertised 45 Colts"


"...Sorry for the miscommunication.  We're too busy making 45 Colts and it will be a long time, if ever, before we offer 44-40's."

No  miscommunication ...Clearly misrepresentation and an over zealous sale rep....

" ... We'll refund your money when we get the gun back.  " THEY bloody well should   ???

"... But in the larger scheme of life, this is no big deal and otherwise known as a First World problem.
Life is good.


I'm impressed by your demeanor  :) , I consider it refreshing ....




when planets align...do the deal !

Pettifogger

"We're too busy making 45 Colts . . ."

Yeah I am sure they are cranking out thousands of them.

hatman

Quote from: Pettifogger on July 13, 2021, 09:57:09 PM
"We're too busy making 45 Colts . . ."

Yeah I am sure they are cranking out thousands of them.

That was my paraphrasing, but here is the exact wording from them:
I'm sorry that you were misinformed.   We are so oversold on these guns in the regular 45 Colt that we simply don't have the resources to build them in 44-40 at the current time and won't be able to for a long ways out.

Kinda weird they'd be "so oversold" and yet I received the 45 with an estimated 8-10 week lead time in just over 2 1/2.   :-\

Major 2

Perhaps it was returned by another misinformed buyer , and so on and so on.  ???
when planets align...do the deal !

Coffinmaker


:)  It's really quite simple my dear Watson  ;)

Standard is struggling to amortize their original investment tooling up to make .45s.  I seriously doubt they have even reached "break even" yet and don't wish to admit they can't absorb the tooling cost to make 44-40. And . . . .

PLUS ONE for Pettifogger (tongue stuck firmly in cheek)

greyhawk

Quote from: Coffinmaker on July 14, 2021, 08:40:23 AM
:)  It's really quite simple my dear Watson  ;)

Standard is struggling to amortize their original investment tooling up to make .45s.  I seriously doubt they have even reached "break even" yet and don't wish to admit they can't absorb the tooling cost to make 44-40. And . . . .

PLUS ONE for Pettifogger (tongue stuck firmly in cheek)

Why is it a big cost tooling for 44/40? (askin for a friend ya know) -- guts of the gun is same? all they need is some 44/40 barrel and a chamber reamer ..................did I miss somethin here ?

Dave T

Quote from: greyhawk on July 14, 2021, 09:50:25 AM
....did I miss somethin here ?

I suspect the development and tooling costs of that idiot 22 they came out with probably quashed the possibility of anything new in the single action department, at least for a while.

Dave

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