Question About Cimarron 1858 New Model Army Conversion .45 (Pics Added)

Rube Burrows · May 29, 2021, 09:53:33 AM

Hello, I am looking at getting a Cimarron New Model Army Conversion. I believe it to be a factory conversion because .45 Colt is stamped on the barrel. This is a used set and the owner says that it comes with the cap n ball cylinders also but that he has never shot them and was not 100% sure if they would work in the gun.

He did however; after talking to me about it put in the cap and ball cylinder and set off a round of caps so it appears to function.

I was not aware of the factory conversion revolvers being able to also take cap n ball cylinders.

Is this right?

They are Sheriff Models with the 5.5" barrels if that matters any.

Long Johns Wolf · May 29, 2021, 10:49:33 AM

Yes, Uberti launched that combo ca. 10 years ago: .45 Colt cal. cartridge cylinder and .44 cal. C&B cylinder.
Contrary to the percussion Remmy of Uberti this one has a beefed up frame to accomodate the 6-shot .45 Colt cylinder.
Enjoy your new toy.
Long Johns Wolf

Abilene · May 29, 2021, 11:43:57 AM

When the Remington conversion was first announced it was supposed to come with the percussion cylinder as well, and some gun mags printed articles about it with both cylinders. But when it came to production, Uberti found that it took too much time to fit both cylinders, so the guns were sold without the percussion cylinder. You could order the percussion cylinder (the new larger size) and fit it yourself. I think a very few of the new guns were shipped with the percussion cylinder. Consider yourself lucky!

Rube Burrows · May 29, 2021, 12:49:26 PM

Quote from: Long Johns Wolf on May 29, 2021, 10:49:33 AM
Yes, Uberti launched that combo ca. 10 years ago: .45 Colt cal. cartridge cylinder and .44 cal. C&B cylinder.
Contrary to the percussion Remmy of Uberti this one has a beefed up frame to accomodate the 6-shot .45 Colt cylinder.
Enjoy your new toy.
Long Johns Wolf

Well that is good news. I was not aware that they had the conversions that could also take bp cylinders. I was only aware that the bp ones could take conversion cylinders.

Rube Burrows · May 29, 2021, 12:49:53 PM

Quote from: Abilene on May 29, 2021, 11:43:57 AM
When the Remington conversion was first announced it was supposed to come with the percussion cylinder as well, and some gun mags printed articles about it with both cylinders. But when it came to production, Uberti found that it took too much time to fit both cylinders, so the guns were sold without the percussion cylinder. You could order the percussion cylinder (the new larger size) and fit it yourself. I think a very few of the new guns were shipped with the percussion cylinder. Consider yourself lucky!

Awesome. Thanks for the info.

Rube Burrows · June 03, 2021, 02:52:23 PM

Well here they are. I made the trade for them. These are the first Remington Conversions that I have had. They each came with a BP cyilnder which fits perfect and will fire caps. Have not got it out to the range yet.

They are Cimarron guns and marked "CAL 45 LC" on the barrel.

russ1943 · July 28, 2021, 12:44:09 PM

When C&B cylinder is in the gun how do the caps stay on when passing the notch in the frame for the cartridge loading?

Rube Burrows · July 28, 2021, 08:19:51 PM

Quote from: russ1943 on July 28, 2021, 12:44:09 PM
When C&B cylinder is in the gun how do the caps stay on when passing the notch in the frame for the cartridge loading?

I have not tried this pair yet with cap and ball because I have another pair that I normally shoot the cap and ball in but I am assuming that with properly fitting caps they should stay on. Its not like the metal that would have been there is actually holding the caps in place.