CCI number 10 question

FatherJohn · January 08, 2021, 09:57:02 AM

Howdy all,

I have made the decision to get back into cap and ball, and do not want to shoot my very worn original New Model Army anymore. So, I ordered a Uberti 1860 from DGW (no idea when it will arrive.) I discovered a few tins of CCI number 10s in my stash. Will these work until I can find some Number 11s?

Should I change out nipples for slix shots or others? Number 11s seem to be hard to find right now.

Thanks for your help!

Fr. John

Coffinmaker · January 08, 2021, 11:08:17 AM

Father John

Unfortunately, Probably not. "Probably" not. Worth a try.

Slix Nipples will give you the most reliable ignition. However, Slix are optimized for Remington #10 and will work with CCI #11.

FatherJohn · January 08, 2021, 01:38:57 PM

Quote from: Coffinmaker on January 08, 2021, 11:08:17 AM
Father John

Unfortunately, Probably not. "Probably" not. Worth a try.

Slix Nipples will give you the most reliable ignition. However, Slix are optimized for Remington #10 and will work with CCI #11.

I was afraid you were going to say that! Guess I gotta settle for hunting around for number 11 caps.

I was also considering picking up some number 10 sized nipples, and then eventually swapping out for slixshots. Just to have the capability to run number 10s if the need arises, ya know?

Navy Six · January 08, 2021, 04:00:10 PM

Father John, I had some CCI #10's a few years ago and they were small enough that I couldn't find anything(Uberti or Pietta) they would fit.

wildman1 · January 13, 2021, 08:11:56 AM

Rem 10s and CCI 11s are about the same. I have 8 cylinders and use CCI 10s on half of them and CCI 11s on the other half. So there are nipples out there that take CCI 10s.
wM1

Coffinmaker · January 13, 2021, 03:17:40 PM

OK Wildman

So "what" are those nipples and "Where" are they?? Your having some, only helps you. Where'd you get the nipples that work with CCI #10??

FatherJohn · January 13, 2021, 05:21:22 PM

Coffinmaker,

RMC Ox Yoke has nipples that say they works with CCI number 10 caps.

Crow Choker · January 14, 2021, 08:42:10 AM

Some ten years back or so a friend and I were checking out a gun shop a ways from our normal habitation and found ten tins of CCI #10's at what was a good price. We split the ten, five each. I for the most part have always used Rem 10's, on occasion CCI #11's. Trying the CCI #10's on my stable of Uberti Colt cap guns and several Pietta's I found that none of them fit on the stock nipples. One exception, sometime back I bought a Pietta 58 Remington from a guy on another forum that came with two cylinders. Another guy on the same forum had a 58 Remington Pietta cylinder for sale so I bought that. I found that one of the cylinders for that Remington would kinda accept the CCI 10's.

All of the nipples on my other cap guns would allow the CCI 10's to fit maybe a 1/16" or so on and you'd have to really push the cap in an attempt to seat it. I didn't have the courage to try it with my fingers, used a wooden dowel, but never did fully seat one. The one Pietta 58 Remington cylinder that did 'kinda' accept them still needed some dowel persuasion to try and get it fully seated. Never did use them, still have em, figured they were to much of a PITB to deal with not to mention hazardous trying to seat on a loaded chamber. Just tried em for fit on empty chambers.

A few years ago I bought some replacement nipples for some of my capguns. Bought some Slix, Track of the Wolf (similar to Treso's), had a spare cylinder for a 51 Pietta Navy 44 that I bought that came with Treso's, and another set of Treso's. I tried for fit CCI #11's, Remington #10's, RWS 1075's, and the **CCI #10's**. All of the first three caps I mentioned had no problem with any of the replacement nipples for fit (and on the factory stock nipples), although Rem 10's are still my favorite and best IMO to use. NONE of the Slix, Track-Wolf, or Treso's wanted anything to do with the CCI #10's just as any of the factory nipples on any Uberti or Pietta revolvers. Just what I experienced with the assortment of 10 Uberti/Pietta revolvers/models I have on hand. They have some use somewhere, possibly on some of the smaller less than 36 caliber revolvers or single shots (just a guess). For now they're just taking up space in the bottom of the container I store percussion caps in.

FatherJohn---If you haven't already seen it, go to the 'Darkside' section, click on 'The Dark Arts', about 2/3 down the page there is an excellent and informative article posted by Mako (who use to post on CAS) titled "Cap Gun Primer". Very well written with pictures. It was written back when Treso's were the rage, before Slix's came around, but just as informative. CC

FatherJohn · January 14, 2021, 11:33:41 AM

Will do, guess I got some reading to do!

Lefty Dude · March 11, 2021, 08:31:36 PM

When I first starting shooting Cap & Ball revolvers I bought #10 CCI's by mistake. I have 1000 of the little devils.
If there are nipples they will fit, i would like to know.

Wildman1; please share with us your substitutes, many of us would like to know.

wildman1 · March 12, 2021, 08:12:20 AM

OK. 2 days ago I took my C&B revolvers to the range and shot 4 cylinders. I don't pay to much attention to which take which caps. I try the CCI #11's and if they don't fit snug I use the CCI #10's. Half of the cylinders I bought used from LEP and have no Idea what nipples are on them, they all work so I use them, they take the CCI #11's. They only cylinder I am absolutely positive about is the one I bought from Gander Outdoors a couple of years ago and it takes CCI #10's. CCI #11's fall off there is no way they will stay on without pinching them and I don't do that. Rem #10's will fit, sort of, when pushed on all the way they are still not snug. The OT's I am shooting are the Pietta Sheriff's Models with the Old Silver finish. They were tuned by Dragoon 45. I hadn't shot them for a year and a half and had a couple of cylinders that had been loaded for that long and had been back and forth across the country in the back of my truck so I wanted to make sure they would go boom before I used them for a match.
So what works for me is CCI #10's on stock Pietta nipples. I can put Rem #10's on but can flick them off easily with my finger nail after seating. I seat them with a flat point piece of deer antler.
Hope that helps. If I see any of you at a shoot and you have CCI #10's I would be happy to buy them from you as long as I don't lose an arm or a leg in the process. I would also be happy to show you my cap guns and which cylinders take which caps.
wM1
I DO NOT seat my caps with my fingers.

wildman1 · March 12, 2021, 08:16:42 AM

Quote from: Lefty Dude on March 11, 2021, 08:31:36 PM
When I first starting shooting Cap & Ball revolvers I bought #10 CCI's by mistake. I have 1000 of the little devils.
If there are nipples they will fit, i would like to know.

Wildman1; please share with us your substitutes, many of us would like to know.

Lefty where do you shoot? I see you list Maricopa county as your residence. I live in Pinal county.
wM1

Lefty Dude · March 12, 2021, 02:18:53 PM

Sorry my Caps are not for sale, Yet.

wildman1 · March 12, 2021, 05:00:31 PM

OK. No problem I've got enough to last me for a while. Just trying to help you out.
wM1

LongWalker · March 13, 2021, 10:31:10 AM

If the caps I have are too small for the nipples I polish the nipples down to fit. Steel wool will usually remove enough metal for the smaller caps to fit, if not I'll carefully use abrasives etc. It usually takes 30 minutes to an hour to polish and replace the nipples, depending on how tight the originals are in the cylinder. Since I order spare nipples to fit any time I puchase or trade for a new revolver, I've usually got a spare set on hand (or on order).

When not in use, spare nipples are strung on a wire, tagged, and safely stored away.