12ga Brass

[Coffinmaker]

  Marshal Dillon 

No, I don't use and Over Powder wad.  I use to.  You certainly can.  No harm no foul although I do have a CAVEAT:  I have been loading with 2F APP for the last several years and have had no problem with APP coming up around the wad.  I don't see any reason not to use an over powder wad.  I didn't see any difference, just made loading faster to eliminate it.  Not much faster at that.

Stay Safe Out There

[Mogorilla]

I have some Rocky Mountain 12 gauge brass and load with 80 grains of bp, over powder card and usually a wad.  I trimmed down a 100 grain spout to 80 and put it on my flask, works great.   Sometimes I use a few layers of wasp nest in place of the card/wad, then equal amount of shot and a card held in place with elmers.  They work great.  I deprime with a long nail and seat the new primer with a dowel.   I love telling some friends who are avid trap shooters that I load with a hammer, nail and dowel.   My brother in law wanted to know if I was leaving him the shells in my will because they are way more stout than the others on the market.  I cant really tell a difference with the wasp nest vs card/wad, but I never really patterned the gun.

[Abilene]

I have half a dozen of the Rocky Mountain 12ga shells.  But the primer pockets on mine are so dang tight that both depriming and priming are very, very difficult (need Harley Davidson size hammer), so I haven't used them in a long time.

[Mogorilla]

Mine love the 209s   They are a bit of a tap to get out, but after a good cleaning, they seat perfectly.   

[wildman1]

Dave I'm trying to figure out how I can get up to meet you up there.
wM1

[Dave T]

Dave I'm trying to figure out how I can get up to meet you up there.
wM1

Let me know and we'll work it out.

Dave

[wildman1]

How you fixed for BP or BP subs? I might could bring a pound or two if ya need any.
wM1

[Dave T]

What a kind and generous offer. Thank you but the only thing I would be in need of are SG primers. I have none.

Dave

[Bart Slade]

PS:  An Afterthought.  I had a thought (Oh Oh The PAIN!!)  IT'S gonna be a long winter.  I may well need a "project."  A useful, useable project.  After all, Plastic hulls do shuck out a tiny bit bedder dan Brass.   Hummmmmmmmmmm.

My (admittedly very limited) experience is different - I'd say it depends on the brass shells.   My Magtech brass shuck about the same as plastic, I haven't yet been able to discern better or worse.   But my RMC brass shells never hang up on me, always shuck fine.

Again, limited.   I've shucked no more than 75-100 each of the brass shells.   Many 100's of plastic though.

[Coffinmaker]

  Well, well 

It's a fact I'm not fast anymore.  Not particularly quick either.  So "speed" is no issue.  Therefore, I concentrate on "looking good" when I do it.  If yer not gonna win it, look good while your at it!!

So.  That means Hammer Double Shotguns.  Yep, Double Guns are the biz.  Lookin good and FUN to boot.  That naturally morphs into All Brass Hulls for said Hammer Double.  Brass Hulls just OOUZE cowboy.  They just look SO right.  And if happen to get a sticky one, it just doesn't matter atall.

Be Safe Out There

[Reverend P. Babcock Chase]

Howdy Coffin,

Back when I took my mobile mercantile, Rum Soaked Crooks (named after the founders), to shoots, we had a motto that summed up your thought.

"A Great Outfit is Remembered Long After a Lackluster Shooting Performance is Forgotten."

Rev. Chase

[Abilene]

 

[Coffinmaker]

Abilene 

Absolutely SUPERB sign and Slogan!!  Gotta Love It you betcha

Lookin Good Out There

[Ketchums Clayton]

About 35 years ago, I got a box of brass Remington Ducks Unlimited 2.75" #5. Are the brass cases expensive enough to make disassembling/selling these worthwhile?

I have great-grandpa's underlever W.Richards 12 ga sxs that I now use commercial 12 ga black powder loads in, but those are plastic hulled.

[Abilene]

Howdy Ketchums,
the Ducks Unlimited hulls might be berdan primed, which reduces their value.  And since Magtech hulls are only about a buck apiece, there's not going to be too much value to the DU hulls.  There were reports of some of them splitting on the first firing - I don't know why.  I'm thinking the box of shells might be worth a little more to some collector than splitting them up, but don't quote me on that.

Where are you finding commercial BP loads?  Haven't seen any of those in a while.  Buffalo Arms?

[Ketchums Clayton]

Well, they're Remington, but I guess they could be Berdan  - never thought of that.

Buffalo Arms is exactly the vendor - not cheap, but they have 12 gauge 7.5 target or dove loads, #5s in a field load, and buckshot.

[Coffinmaker]

  Ketchums 

I'm in with Abilene.  I'm certain your DU Brassies would be worth more on the Collector market than disassembled for the hulls.  As Abilene mentioned, MagTech are usually only about a buck a hull, and usually readily available.  I'd keep 'em together.

Play Safe Out There

[Ketchums Clayton]

You're probably right....$1 per hull is cheaper than I thought was available.

[Coffinmaker]

  Ketchums 

There is a manufacturer of All Brass hulls, that make them by machining rather than extrusion.  I don't remember who they are but there hulls are between 8 n 10 bucks a hull.  Zuper Zpensive.  Magtech are quite reasonable.

[Mogorilla]

I believe you are referring to Rocky Mountain Cartridge.   Their shells are awesome.  I have 10.   Had 10 Magtech at one point.    You have to work around to get them to accept 209 primers, far more available at the time and I can squish them between my fingers.   After I had 3 magtech split, I went with RMC and chucked the magtech.   They are the last 10 shotgun shells I will ever need to buy.   My brother-in-law wants them when I croak, which I hope is a goodly time off.