Thanks Camille. I had read in Capt. Baylors page about them and that Coyote cap was working with the company in China. But the info was dated 2004. So I didnt know if they were readily avaliable in the US or not yet. But I hate waiting so getting on that list might have to be postponed. Cause I aint sure if I would ever use it for CAS just have always wanted a level action shotgun.