Did anyone else notice....

Pitspitr · May 20, 2020, 07:45:31 AM

Last weekend I re-watched the History Channel's Sons of Liberty. Just before the Bunker Hill scenes they showed a close up of muskets in a rack and they appeared to be trapdoors with flint locks. Were these some leftovers from Disney's Swiss Family Robinson?

Mogorilla · May 20, 2020, 10:18:50 AM

Argh! I have missed it each time it is on! Well if that is where they came from, i am ready with coconut bombs!

Coffinmaker · May 20, 2020, 10:35:02 AM

Now just hold on here a minute

You guys know full well, those folks on the Hysterical Channel make all their presentations EXACTLY the way it happened. Hysterically accurate in every little detail. Always.

Pitspitr · May 20, 2020, 11:08:53 AM

Quote from: Mogorilla on May 20, 2020, 10:18:50 AM
Argh! I have missed it each time it is on!

Oh, you didn't miss it. A friend loaned me the DVD set

Crow Choker · May 20, 2020, 11:32:35 AM

Quote from: Pitspitr on May 20, 2020, 07:45:31 AM
Last weekend I re-watched the History Channel's Sons of Liberty. Just before the Bunker Hill scenes they showed a close up of muskets in a rack and they appeared to be trapdoors with flint locks. Were these some leftovers from Disney's Swiss Family Robinson?

Who cares! It was a good series-made a little different than other squeaky clean versions of the Revolution. If a show program/movie doesn't have 100% of so-called "period" representations of arms of the day, to many of ya get yer noses out of joint and declare the production a failure and/or nick pick it to death. Just enjoy the production for what it represents and tells. Ya, been better to have 'flinters' of the day, but possibly the needed number wasn't available. Having Trapdoors with flint locks attached didn't detract from the theme of the show and quoting your post they were "muskets in a rack", evidently just to visualize that they were rifles ready to go if needed. Better than a lot of 1800 era westerns using firearms yet to be produced be carried and used, but yet the movie/TV show gets rave reviews from fans, esp. if a John Wayne type name is the star. I have the DVD, I'll have to rewatch it and see if it spoils the show for me. Anyway--America won the fray and sent the Brits back to England in time for afternoon tea and crumpets.

Mogorilla · May 20, 2020, 12:47:38 PM

I will still be keeping an eye for it. Big disappointment when i got disney plus for free was Johnny Tremain was not available to stream.

Reverend P. Babcock Chase · May 20, 2020, 07:54:06 PM

Howdy all,

I didn't see the program, but the "flintlock" trapdoor rifles go way back. I'm not sure who created those, but I think I saw a few when I visited Stembridge Arms with Phil Spangenberger located on a Los Angeles movie studio lot back in the 70's. They were old then having been rented out for who knows how many movies.

Reverend Chase

Delmonico · May 22, 2020, 12:59:25 AM

I thought those were auctioned off in the big Stenbridge sale about 10 years ago, would have liked one of those and the real prize would have been the gun that Old Yaller was shot with, what a cool thing to have, tell everyone one not only did I not cry when Old Yaller died, but I have the rifle.

Delmonico · May 22, 2020, 01:01:59 AM

There you go, always thought they were neat.

Delmonico · May 22, 2020, 01:03:30 AM

https://truewestmagazine.com/hollywoods-flintlock-fakery/

Dave T · May 22, 2020, 09:18:47 AM

Last Sunday evening my wife and I couldn't find anything else to watch and set through two episodes of "The Men Who Made America" or what ever the History channel called it.

Davey Crockett was introduced and I started looking at the rifle (?) he was carrying. It had a steel ram rod and a sling mounted on swivels. As I recall he was known to carry a "long rifle" of what ever persuasion (Pennsylvania, Tennessee, Kentucky, etc). As I watched closer I suspected his long arm was a musket. It lacked a rear sight, had a very large hammer & lock, and appeared to be a smooth bore. Curiouser and curiouser.

On a more pleasant note, Andrew Jackson was portrayed as a complete SOB. Don't think I'll watch the next installment.

Dave

DB Books · June 02, 2020, 12:25:26 PM

Seems to me ol' Bessy was a Pennsylvania rifle?

Darto · June 21, 2020, 07:42:47 PM

Quote from: Mogorilla on May 20, 2020, 12:47:38 PM
I will still be keeping an eye for it. Big disappointment when i got disney plus for free was Johnny Tremain was not available to stream.

dang, that was one of Disney's best.

Another good one was Saga of Andy Burnett (Armed with the original, very first, Kentucky Long Rifle, a very young Andy flees his hard nose step father. And heads to the mountains unfortunately right in the middle of the warlike Blackfeet tribe area of the Dakotas.

(SPOILER)
Old Bill Williams (Slim Pickens) has constant trouble with his beloved mule.

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