Lee FCD , lead bullets ?

Started by brudford, May 10, 2020, 10:49:49 AM

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Crow Choker

Quote from: Cliff Fendley on May 12, 2020, 09:52:24 PM
The whole idea of the Lee collet FCD is it doesn't care if the brass is trimmed or not. The collet die is forgiving on case length etc.

Cliff your quote is what Lee has always printed about the FCD's. I love to cast and reload, almost as much as shooting itself, but case trimming is one operation I loathe and hate with a passion, but a needed step in a lot of reloading at times with certain cartridges. One reason Lee sold me on the FCD's, no need to or not as much trimming. What are penned and considered CAS rounds I rarely have the need to trim, but keep an eye on length. As I penned before, I've never had a problem with the Lee FCD and the means and way they crimped.  Never observed any brass damage, just didn't see the need for the FCD's that resized the brass. Lee claims this is to ensure all rounds will chamber as factory ammo. If the reloader is paying attention that can happen without the 2nd resizing IMO and I didn't like the fact that the FCD may or will resize a lead bullet to a smaller diameter. I don't recall back when I bought my Lee FCD's if they offered the 'Collet' FCD's for the straight wall cartridge's I reload for or not, I was just aware of the Carbide FCD--if I'd been aware of 'Collet' only, I would have gone that route.
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Coffinmaker


:)  Oh Drat   ;)

I have nothing what-so-ever of value to add to this discussion.  I don't have a Lee FCD of any sort and have never had a Lee FCD of any sort.  I've never felt I needed one. 

I do admit however, I am skull numb bored hunkering down and sheltering-in-place and can't help remembering "Stop - Drop - Cover" exercises in grade schule.  Based on my level of boredom, I just had to comment on something somewhere whether I know anything about the subject or not.  I this case, I don't.

So, should one and all elect to ignore this missive, I'll not take offense.  In fact, would have you gotta this far in this missive, there is NO HOPE.  You're STUCK.  But Happy WEDNESDAY.  Also, TRASH DAY at my Hacienda.  I applaud those daring young (mostly) men and their Big Green Trashing Machine.

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AntiqueSledMan

Hello Guys,

I disagree about case length, attached is my modified FCD
set up for crimping 44 Colt with heeled bullet.
Also attached is a diagram of the Carbide Factory Crimp Die,
nothing more than a seating die with a carbide sizing ring for straight wall cases.
I will add, the most frequent modification on the FCD is the actual crimping ring,
many think to wide from factory.

AntiqueSledMan.

brudford

 Update on the Lee FCD , I'am the OP . So after flipping over the direction page and reading it like I should of to start , Lee States , " to seat the bullet a little deeper than the crimp grove. " I don't think I was ever going to get a roll crimp into the crimp groove with a collet style die ! So I seated the Lyman cast bullet just a little above the crimp groove and bingo it worked , and no ring . I did a pressure test putting the bullet tip on a hard surface and pressing very hard and the bullet held firm in the case . Should work for revolver shooting , do not know about trying this round in a lever action with the OAL now being a bit shorter ? Another advanage is I do not have to bother cleaning out any lube that gets into the crimp groove now , it is hidden under the brass . Thanks

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