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Silver Creek Slim

Question for you cast bullet rifle reloaders, but a little background first.
I am loading non-gas check cast bullets in .30-40, .30-06 and .32-40. I am using a 5/32" pin punch to bell the mouth of the cases so as to not shave lead off when setting the bullet.
I am used to loading pistol rounds (.32 Mag, .38 Spl, .44 Spl, .45 Colt, .45 ACP, etc.) and belling the mouth of the case with a Lee Powder Through Expander Die that comes with the Lee reloading die sets.

How do you get a non-gas check bullet in the case without shaving lead off?

Slim
NCOWS 2329, WartHog, SCORRS, SBSS, BHR, GAF, RBCS, Dirty RATS, BTBM, IPSAC, Cosie-in-training
I love the smell of Black Powder in the morning!

pony express

I use a Lyman "M" die. Lee also makes a case mouth belling die, I think it's like a sizing die with a tapered cone inside. The "M" dies are caliber specific, they have a straight portion just under bullet diameter, and then a step up to a few thousandths over. You would need 2, one for "30 rifle" and one ".32 rifle"

https://www.midwayusa.com/product/1011246697

https://www.midwayusa.com/product/1011184394?pid=140461

I have not used the Lee one, it appears that any case length variations would vary the amount of "bell"

Major E A Sterner

I've only loaded for 30-30, I have the Lee die set that comes with the factory crimp die and it bells the mouth of the case so theres no shaving of lead..
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Silver Creek Slim

Quote from: pony express on October 09, 2019, 09:00:07 PM
I use a Lyman "M" die. Lee also makes a case mouth belling die, I think it's like a sizing die with a tapered cone inside. The "M" dies are caliber specific, they have a straight portion just under bullet diameter, and then a step up to a few thousandths over. You would need 2, one for "30 rifle" and one ".32 rifle"

https://www.midwayusa.com/product/1011246697

https://www.midwayusa.com/product/1011184394?pid=140461

I have not used the Lee one, it appears that any case length variations would vary the amount of "bell"
I'll get one of the Lee's. How did I miss it?  ::) Thanks.

Slim
NCOWS 2329, WartHog, SCORRS, SBSS, BHR, GAF, RBCS, Dirty RATS, BTBM, IPSAC, Cosie-in-training
I love the smell of Black Powder in the morning!

Silver Creek Slim

Quote from: Major E A Sterner on October 09, 2019, 09:40:32 PM
I've only loaded for 30-30, I have the Lee die set that comes with the factory crimp die and it bells the mouth of the case so theres no shaving of lead..
My 30-30 Lee die set doesn't have the crimp die.

Slim
NCOWS 2329, WartHog, SCORRS, SBSS, BHR, GAF, RBCS, Dirty RATS, BTBM, IPSAC, Cosie-in-training
I love the smell of Black Powder in the morning!

pony express

Lee makes a bunch of different die sets. You can get the cheapest set, just has FL sizing and bullet seating, or the 3 die that also has the factory crimp. There's also die sets that use a collet type neck resizer.

I think I'll order one of the Lee universal neck expander, to use with all the weird stuff I reload, rather than get another M die for every caliber.

Major 2

Lee has the universal neck expanding die

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000N8N538/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o03_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

I have 2  one set for 30 cal.   and the other for 44 cal. (41 Swiss )

when planets align...do the deal !

litl rooster

I use the Lee universal neck expanding die also.


Morning Coffee is up

For breakfast
Mathew 5.9

Silver Creek Slim

Morning y'all.
Thanks fer the coffee and SOS.

My father mentioned having SOS in the guards.

'Tis 43 and cloudy. High of 70.

Slim
NCOWS 2329, WartHog, SCORRS, SBSS, BHR, GAF, RBCS, Dirty RATS, BTBM, IPSAC, Cosie-in-training
I love the smell of Black Powder in the morning!

litl rooster

Quote from: Silver Creek Slim on October 10, 2019, 07:22:06 AM
Morning y'all.
Thanks fer the coffee and SOS.

My father mentioned having SOS in the guards.

'Tis 43 and cloudy. High of 70.

Slim

Slim my mom made it when I was young. Eating it in the mess hall- you judged it against your mom?s :) I occasionally make it here at home and after seeing Kent Rollings video I will be making it today.
Mathew 5.9

Major 2

We called what the video shows Biscuits and Gravy...though I have used ground beef ...normally it is pork sausage

SOS as I know it is creamed chip beef on toast ...whole different taste deal altogether
when planets align...do the deal !

litl rooster

Mathew 5.9

Delmonico

Well to be honest after watching some of Kent's video, he ain't the brightest lantern on the wagon tongue.  I am not alone in this opinion.
Mongrel Historian


Always get the water for the coffee upstream from the herd.

Ab Ovo Usque ad Mala

The time has passed so quick, the years all run together now.

Major 2

when planets align...do the deal !

Delmonico

Quote from: Major 2 on October 10, 2019, 01:17:00 PM
I picked up on that too

His video on seasoning should be banned, his method is all wrong and does not season cast iron at all.  His temps are to low, as bad as Martha Stewart's video.

He's either not as good as many think or he let the writers and producers totally take over.
Mongrel Historian


Always get the water for the coffee upstream from the herd.

Ab Ovo Usque ad Mala

The time has passed so quick, the years all run together now.

Major 2

when planets align...do the deal !

Delmonico

Don't think that, but I am friends with several people who could probably do a better job.
Mongrel Historian


Always get the water for the coffee upstream from the herd.

Ab Ovo Usque ad Mala

The time has passed so quick, the years all run together now.

Delmonico

I run  FB dutch oven group which has some of the best talent out there, we have got tired of when someone has a good question, somebody that doesn't know much will instead of letting some in the group answer it, with in 3-5 minutes has posted to go to YouTube and look for a Kent Rollins video on it.

Not happed in a while because I pointed out a couple times that is rude to the membership of the group who have as much or more talent than Kent, like the old TV show with Walter Brennen, not brag, just fact.😉

Present conditions.

Mongrel Historian


Always get the water for the coffee upstream from the herd.

Ab Ovo Usque ad Mala

The time has passed so quick, the years all run together now.

Delmonico

Quote from: jacksimonton on October 11, 2019, 01:08:21 AM
So beautiful breakfast menu.

He should have gotten some good country sausage instead.  I could recommend him some good places.

I cringe everytime I watch him, he sure makes some things harder than they need to be.

He is the only one I ever seen use two pans like that to make gravy. ::)

Sourdough sinner-mon rolls always go good also.

Mongrel Historian


Always get the water for the coffee upstream from the herd.

Ab Ovo Usque ad Mala

The time has passed so quick, the years all run together now.

litl rooster

Quote from: Delmonico on October 10, 2019, 01:28:25 PM
His video on seasoning should be banned, his method is all wrong and does not season cast iron at all.  His temps are to low, as bad as Martha Stewart's video.

He's either not as good as many think or he let the writers and producers totally take over.

Funny thing, he is successful at it... makes you wonder who is right. How?s your branding going?


Coffee is up
Mathew 5.9

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