Ever wonder ..... ?

[nativeshootist]

That Rosebud is a little bit north of where I am but neat.

[StrawHat]

...People regard the 45-70 as a pretty skookum load for game and target use.  But - the same amount of lead and powder in a 50-70 gets a sneer...

I came to the same conclusion. The more I use the 50-70 the less use I had for the 45-70. And because I have a 405 for flat shooting, I really have o use for the 45-70. I wrote about that on a couple of fora. Made no friends fast!

...Load was the Lyman 515141/450 over 65 grs FFG. Recoil is quite manageable even from my Shiloh 50-70 carbine...

Yep, sounds about right. I shoot a customized 1866 trapdoor so keep my loads a bit soft. The 1865 and 1866 are were the myth of the weak trapdoor is actually true.

Kevin