Changing my line up.

[Tuolumne Lawman]

I really, really love the 8" with the gated and the ejector rod.  VERY 1869ish.  I love it being a 5 shot like the original .46 rim fire conversions.



The 5.5 Pale Rider is great, but I really want a loading port on it.  Problem is, you can't mount a Kirst ejector rod on a 5.5" because the barrel ram latch lug is too close to remove the cylinder pin.  I've been working on a fix for Walt, but haven't come up with one.

I think the easiest is to get another 8".  I already have another gated headed my way.  If I go with another 8" gated, I'll probably sell off the Pale Rider and 5.5"  as I already have an Uberti 1860 .45 conversion as a back up revolver.  SCORRS will be the first to know.....

[Major 2]

You changing your line up.    imagine that ! 

only person I know with more acute gunitus ....might be me 

[Tuolumne Lawman]

LOL!  At  least I am sticking with Remingtons.....  There is something so 1869 about the 5 shot Kirst with an ejector rod.  It reminds me of the first cartridge conversion I ever handled in about 1995.  It was a NMA in 5 shot .46 rim fire.  It had an ejector, so it was probably a 2nd model....  That started my cartridge conversion revolver-itus!

[Tuolumne Lawman]

I listed the Kirst Pale Rider on SASS Wire fro $280 shipped.  It won't totally cover the gated I have ordered, but will help.  I also listed the 1858 Pietta 5.5" and Slim Jim for an additional $300 shipped. If the pistol doesn't sell, I'll jut put the gated on it and not run a ejector rod on it.

[45 Dragoon]

Tuolumne Lawman,
  Why not a jointed (with a link) pin? Some folks install a jointed pin in their 5 1/2" ers. You could do the same with the "all in one Kirst Remie pin/ejector.

Just a thought .  .  .  .

Mike

[Tuolumne Lawman]

I had thought  of that possibility, maybe cutting a 60 degree angle in the pin in the middle of the cylinder, then drilling a hole through the 60, and putting a pin through it to create a joint.  My thought though is that it would not be very sturdy....

[45 Dragoon]

"Sturdy" would depend on the "build" but at the end of the day, just a stable bearing surface fore and aft would be sufficient.  Remember, a ROA has a pin that has a deminished mid section for the most part. I reduce the mid section of Remington pins for the accumulation of fouling. A cut ring with a series of grooves lead any fouling to the reduced section for a day of "non- binding" shooting!!

Mike

[Marshal Will Wingam]

What if you filed the frame enough at the muzzle end of the bore for the cylinder pin to let the pin to come out and drop enough to pass the lug? In other words, make the very end of the pin travel sloppy when the rod is pulled as far as it can go. Alternately, can you remove a bit on the bottom side of the pin at that point to let it drop? It would seat properly and not be too loose over most of the bearing surface.

[Tuolumne Lawman]

That is an option someone had on a youtube video a while ago.  I would have to cut out the old cylinder pin out, the auger out the side of the hole.  Between that and cutting off one of the front "wings", and maybe cut a slight angle to help it clear the lug. I am getting about 35 of the "transitional" ejectors from Walt to modify with my fix I described in the other post.  Final production will be different, but Walt wants me to fix these ejectors to be "Tuolumne Lawman's ejector design" so he can sell them at a discount.  I am using one of those to explore the possibility of doing the angle bevel, trimmed wing mod to see if it will work.

[nativeshootist]

how much did it cost to have your revolver converted? i've been thinking on doing the same for a 1860 army, I'm calculated the cost at the moment though.

[Tuolumne Lawman]

I did the channel myself with a dremel and cold blue.  I have done it on both 1858 Remington and 1860 Colts.  Cutting the channel on the Remmie took about 1/2 hr, and the Colt took about 45 minutes.

The gated Konvereters  for either 1858 or 1860 run $325 + or - plus shipping.  The non gated Pale Rider for the 1858 is $300.  I am selling a Pale Rider non gated Pietta 1858 Konverter for $280 including shipping.  Ejector assemblies for Colt or Remington run $135 or so.

You can buy Uberti factory conversions for about the same total money, but I enjoy the do it yourself aspect.

[Tuolumne Lawman]

how much did it cost to have your revolver converted? i've been thinking on doing the same for a 1860 army, I'm calculated the cost at the moment though.

Here is a thread I did on an 1851 in .44 (it used an 1860 Konverter and an 1851 ejector.)

https://www.cascity.com/forumhall/index.php/topic,61499.0.html

[Marshal Will Wingam]

That is an option someone had on a youtube video a while ago.  I would have to cut out the old cylinder pin out, the auger out the side of the hole.  Between that and cutting off one of the front "wings", and maybe cut a slight angle to help it clear the lug. I am getting about 35 of the "transitional" ejectors from Walt to modify with my fix I described in the other post.  Final production will be different, but Walt wants me to fix these ejectors to be "Tuolumne Lawman's ejector design" so he can sell them at a discount.  I am using one of those to explore the possibility of doing the angle bevel, trimmed wing mod to see if it will work.

You have a picture of your 45 degree mod?

[Tuolumne Lawman]

 I cut the angle from the top of the long track to the top of the bottom short track.  When using the ejector, it returns to the retracted under the barrel position automatically under spring pressure.  By leaving the 90 degree angle at the cylinder end of the short bottom track, it prevents the ejector from compressing the spring when holstering. I used it at my local match and it is flawless.

[Marshal Will Wingam]

I cut the angle from the top of the long track to the top of the bottom short track.  When using the ejector, it returns to the retracted under the barrel position automatically under spring pressure.  By leaving the 90 degree angle at the cylinder end of the short bottom track, it prevents the ejector from compressing the spring when holstering. I used it at my local match and it is flawless.

That looks great! Very good work, there.

[Coffinmaker]

Nah.   I change my lineup the most.  Of Course they are all Colt pattern Open Tops because REMINGTON SUCK   

[Tuolumne Lawman]

Nah.   I change my lineup the most.  Of Course they are all Colt pattern Open Tops because REMINGTON SUCK   

LOL!

[Tuolumne Lawman]

That looks great! Very good work, there.

Thanks!  I expect to have the ejectors (to modify) from VTI/Kirst next week.  It will take another week to get them done, then Priority mail back to VTI.  They are also proceeding with a new modified production run, where the channel is on the bottom, and just goes straight back. I like my design better.  Walt has not set a price yet for the TL design, but it will be slightly cheaper. 

[Marshal Will Wingam]

Thanks!  I expect to have the ejectors (to modify) from VTI/Kirst next week.  It will take another week to get them done, then Priority mail back to VTI.  They are also proceeding with a new modified production run, where the channel is on the bottom, and just goes straight back. I like my design better.  Walt has not set a price yet for the TL design, but it will be slightly cheaper.

I also like your design better. I don't need one right now but maybe that will be something I should think about getting for some yet undertermined future need.

[Tuolumne Lawman]

I also like your design better. I don't need one right now but maybe that will be something I should think about getting for some yet undertermined future need.

Let me know, and I'll hold one back for you when I ship them back to VTI.  There will be about 30-35 (I don't have number yet).  You can make it right with Walt, and then I will ship to you when he says I can.