What size bore are Uberti .44-40 revolver clones?

[Bryan Austin]

I bought my 1st 44-40 Navy Arms carbine in 1971, it was accurate with W-W 200 JSP ammo out to 125 yards. I lent it to a friend and killed a dear at that range, 2 shorts an inch a part pretty good for a guy with no hunting experience and sighted in the rifle that morning with 3 shorts. I think the only thing he short before was 22LR. That ammo was .427, and seems to be the best for that rifle. The Hager SAA in 44-40 got that around 1972-73 was also accurate with that ammo. The guns were not accurate with reloads using .429, JHP bullets 8 gains unique, not so good. One problem W-W the cases Winchester-Western are vary thin at end and would bulge the cases and some times split them. Remington cases were some times to thick and wouldn't chamber in the guns, especially in the Navy Arms 1875, SAA bought in 1975. No wonder some reloads don't do well with cast .427  lead bullet, in the newer guns.

When Ruger can out with the Vaquero's they offered it in 44-40, and 44mag and a dual cylinder, that never came about since bore was .430 and the 44-40 shot all over the place. They never sold the combo, you couldn't even order the 44-40 cylinder from them or Numrich, even though is was listed in Numrich's catalog for years.

Where can it be found Uberti changed things in the 44-40 caliber.  This was one of the original calibers they started with. 44-40, 38 Spec, 44 Spec, with Navy Arms as the sole importer, the first rifles were only in 44-40.

Boy if Winchester .4255 JSP's weren't so hard to find and expensive!!! I have a few left

[russ1943]

Forgot does anyone know what the USFA All USA made specs, are for there 44-40,

[Coffinmaker]

.429 Nominal.

[Abilene]

...Where can it be found Uberti changed things in the 44-40 caliber.  This was one of the original calibers they started with. 44-40, 38 Spec, 44 Spec, with Navy Arms as the sole importer, the first rifles were only in 44-40.

Russ, I don't know when Uberti went to .429 for 44-40, but it has been a number of years, I'd say at least 20.  Here are Uberti's bore specs:

https://www.cimarron-firearms.com/bore-groove-twist/

That is on Cimarron's website but the info is from Uberti.  I think someone mentioned this info is on Dixie's website as well but I haven't found it there.

[russ1943]

Boy if Winchester .4255 JSP's weren't so hard to find and expensive!!! I have a few left

Yes you can't even find JSP .427 bullet anymore, or the ammo and now 50 rds is $68.00, in Win, haven't seen any in Remington in years.  The ammo manufactures are ripping people off. 44 mag and 44 spec are 1/2 the price

[Bryan Austin]

Yes you can't even find JSP .427 bullet anymore, or the ammo and now 50 rds is $68.00, in Win, haven't seen any in Remington in years.  The ammo manufactures are ripping people off. 44 mag and 44 spec are 1/2 the price

Not exactly ripping people off but I certainly understand. The 44-40 has been so neutered over the years...the reason why I do what I do...that people won't buy over priced "hunting quality" factory ammo enough for manufactures to manufacture enough to bring the cost down. With the quality of the "Hunting" ammo so low, folks just won't buy it...especially at the high cost. There are way more 44 mag and 44 special shooters out there.

A little off topic referring to rifles......

"The Winchester bore diameter is .429. All available soft points are about .424. One shooter gets finest results by swaging .424 bullets to .429 for Winchester rifles. Remington and Marlin rifles measure .424, therefore factory bullets are satisfactory in those barrels. Properly loaded, this cartridge has more knockdown powder than a .30-.30" ~ Sharpe - 1937