Total Capper Frustration

R.M. Conversion · March 02, 2019, 12:27:21 PM

Shooting Colt model guns. I got a snail capper - doesn't fit on my 1860, 1851 or Pietta 1851 44 worth a hoot. I guess I need to trim the brass lips down a little. I wouldn't even try to think of using it on my 58 Remington.

Went out and got two inline cappers, a Cash and a Pedersoli. In BOTH about half of the Rem #10s end up sideways in the little channel, no matter how carefully I load them.

What's the winning formula here for cappers? Or am I just going to put these things on with forceps forever?

Thanks....

Bunk · March 02, 2019, 01:46:32 PM

Cut down the recoil shield far enough to get to the bottom edge of the nipples. File bit at a time on the snail capper mouth until you hit the sweet spot and the cap will slide right on.
Inline cappers are a PITA. I load mine by setting the cap open end up and slide the capper loading hole down on the cap then tip it over and down she goes. Slow but with less frustration.
Gotta go shoot
Good luck
Bunk

Crow Choker · March 02, 2019, 03:17:17 PM

R.M.---What breed of snail capper to you have? Years ago back in the 70-90's I used straight line cappers, bought a 'Cash' brand snailer capper and never looked back. Works on all of my Colt Uberti/Pietta cap guns (1851's (36 and 44), Walker, Dragoons, 1860, and 1862 Navy with no problem. Use Rem #10's all of the time with no problem's. I do use a straight line on my Remington style, but plan on milling out the area around the nipple's someday so as to use my Cash Snailer. If your using a Cash brand, maybe they're making them different now, couldn't say-I can fill mine up and never a glitch. So far!

greyhawk · March 02, 2019, 03:32:31 PM

Quote from: R.M. Conversion on March 02, 2019, 12:27:21 PM
Shooting Colt model guns. I got a snail capper - doesn't fit on my 1860, 1851 or Pietta 1851 44 worth a hoot. I guess I need to trim the brass lips down a little. I wouldn't even try to think of using it on my 58 Remington.

Went out and got two inline cappers, a Cash and a Pedersoli. In BOTH about half of the Rem #10s end up sideways in the little channel, no matter how carefully I load them.

What's the winning formula here for cappers? Or am I just going to put these things on with forceps forever?

Thanks....

I have three inlines (includes a Cash) - hands down best of em is the El cheapo one I got in Cabelas about ten five years ago.

Crow Choker · March 02, 2019, 04:24:48 PM

My best inline is one I bought back in 72' when I bought my first cap and ball a Euroarms 1851 Colt Navy model in 44 caliber. I have two Cash inlinners that are respectable, but are not as good as my first one--Brand-Unknown.

R.M. Conversion · March 02, 2019, 04:51:49 PM

I had two of the Cash snail cappers. Modifying them now, and I might figure a way to make them a little 'narrower' too - the caps in that one also appear in the little jaws sideways as often as not.

After tinkering with the in-lines, about half the caps flip sideways in the little channel. They are worthless.

Coffinmaker · March 02, 2019, 05:51:49 PM

OK R.M.,

Lemmie see if I can help. I don't use nor like "inline" cappers. I use a pair of Cash Snail cappers. They can do with a little tweaking. I used a fine file to cut the bottom lip back until it was just right at or a hair shorter than the bottom of the cap. When the cap is held by the little spring retainer. I also took just a hair of the spring retainer. The snail cappers now work a treat. HOWEVER: Every now and again, a cap will turn sideways and have to be straightened up or dump'd. Oh, and I put a slight bevel on the sides. I only have Colt pattern guns by Pietta. I can't begin to comment on a Remington. I don't like Remingtons at all.

Luck in the Shadows

Lefty Dude · March 03, 2019, 12:51:00 PM

Yep; what he do I do also

greyhawk · March 03, 2019, 04:56:03 PM

Quote from: R.M. Conversion on March 02, 2019, 04:51:49 PM
I had two of the Cash snail cappers. Modifying them now, and I might figure a way to make them a little 'narrower' too - the caps in that one also appear in the little jaws sideways as often as not.

After tinkering with the in-lines, about half the caps flip sideways in the little channel. They are worthless.

I have three inlines - never had a cap turn sideways in the channel after I got in in right way round - geittin em loaded in properly is the major problem I had and the cheep cabelas one was way the easiest to load.
Worthless ? mybe but work lots better than finger and thumb for capping a pistol .

R.M. Conversion · March 03, 2019, 10:11:04 PM

Thanks Coffin, I'll try those mods to my two snail cappers and I'll chalk the inline ones up to experience. Maybe I can 'narrow' them somehow to prevent caps going sideways on them.

And yeah, futzing with them takes 'way longer than just putting the caps on with my fat fingers. Actually, a pair of small forceps is my go-to move now...

Mogorilla · March 04, 2019, 07:14:26 AM

I am a proponent of the in-lines. I had a snail capper. Did not work on the Remington, eventually suffered a catastrophic failure during a shoot, not sure what happened, but spring caught on something and all caps went to the ground. Moved to in-lines, but converted the Remington to some of these, not sure they will catch on, self contained cartridges. I now have about 11 in-line cappers. Loading is the tricky part and have been known to beg with my wife, she of the delicately long fingers, to help. Once loaded, I have not had an issue. And with 11, I can pretty much shoot an entire match and not have to reload one on the fly. I get cabelas/bass pro gift cards for holiday/birthday. Pretty much every time I go, I bring home a capper. I did buy one of Ted Cash's shorter ones. It is good to load a revolver once. I like the concept, but have moved it to the single shot box, as I like having the option for more, in case I drop them.

Fingers McGee · March 04, 2019, 01:43:19 PM

Quote from: Coffinmaker on March 02, 2019, 05:51:49 PM
OK R.M.,

Lemmie see if I can help. I don't use nor like "inline" cappers. I use a pair of Cash Snail cappers. They can do with a little tweaking. I used a fine file to cut the bottom lip back until it was just right at or a hair shorter than the bottom of the cap. When the cap is held by the little spring retainer. I also took just a hair of the spring retainer. The snail cappers now work a treat. HOWEVER: Every now and again, a cap will turn sideways and have to be straightened up or dump'd. Oh, and I put a slight bevel on the sides. I only have Colt pattern guns by Pietta. I can't begin to comment on a Remington. I don't like Remingtons at all.

Luck in the Shadows

What he said; plus, I have 2nd Gen Colt, Uberti and Pietta Colt pattern guns and the Cash snail capper with #10 Remington caps is all I use on them. I've managed to wear out a couple snail cappers over the years. I don't care for 58 Remingtons either.

greyhawk · March 04, 2019, 03:01:55 PM

Quote from: Mogorilla on March 04, 2019, 07:14:26 AM
I am a proponent of the in-lines. I had a snail capper. Did not work on the Remington, eventually suffered a catastrophic failure during a shoot, not sure what happened, but spring caught on something and all caps went to the ground. Moved to in-lines, but converted the Remington to some of these, not sure they will catch on, self contained cartridges. I now have about 11 in-line cappers. Loading is the tricky part and have been known to beg with my wife, she of the delicately long fingers, to help. Once loaded, I have not had an issue. And with 11, I can pretty much shoot an entire match and not have to reload one on the fly. I get cabelas/bass pro gift cards for holiday/birthday. Pretty much every time I go, I bring home a capper. I did buy one of Ted Cash's shorter ones. It is good to load a revolver once. I like the concept, but have moved it to the single shot box, as I like having the option for more, in case I drop them.

ahhhh cool at least theres two of us..................

Coffinmaker · March 05, 2019, 04:13:33 PM

Yes, Greyhawk. 2.

But remember, your upside down so the caps gozinta da straight capper right side up .. I think .....

greyhawk · March 06, 2019, 04:12:55 AM

Quote from: Coffinmaker on March 05, 2019, 04:13:33 PM
Yes, Greyhawk. 2.

But remember, your upside down so the caps gozinta da straight capper right side up .. I think .....

You need a good laugh so I tell ya this

first the price of a Cash spiral capper spooked me pretty good (remember we dont shoot pistol near as much as you fellers and my leather capper works just fine for the ML rifles) - as well everything is about double dollers down here

second - the thought of standing 100 caps right way up in that spiral thingy ma jig was just tooooooo much of a strain fer my brain

no nobody tole me n I didnt ask

just found out last year the dang thing drives itself .................who woulda thought?

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Bunk · March 06, 2019, 07:37:08 AM

Just dumped a tin of Remington #10 caps in my Cash snail capper and only about a dozen were not mouth up. Organized them and put caps on two guns with no problems. The capper has been "tuned" with a fine cut file as per Coffinmaker and the recoil shield has been re-contoured so the cones are exposed enough to get the caps on. Both guns are fitted with Slixshot nipples.

Now having said that with CCI#11 caps which must be a little different because capping is problematic at least.
With RWS 1075 caps look for second strikes.

The moral is that with a properly adjusted capper, #10 Remington caps, Slixshot nipples,and a revolver properly set up there should be no trouble.

CAVEAT This only applies to Colt type revolvers. I cannot speak for Remington revolvers, don't have any, never had any, don't like 'em, think they are ugly as Rosie O'Donnell, so when it comes to Remington revolvers "Son you are on your own.
Un-frustrated with snail cappers
Bunk"

greyhawk · March 06, 2019, 03:26:18 PM

Quote from: Bunk on March 06, 2019, 07:37:08 AM
Just dumped a tin of Remington #10 caps in my Cash snail capper and only about a dozen were not mouth up. Organized them and put caps on two guns with no problems. The capper has been "tuned" with a fine cut file as per Coffinmaker and the recoil shield has been re-contoured so the cones are exposed enough to get the caps on. Both guns are fitted with Slixshot nipples.

Now having said that with CCI#11 caps which must be a little different because capping is problematic at least.
With RWS 1075 caps look for second strikes.

The moral is that with a properly adjusted capper, #10 Remington caps, Slixshot nipples,and a revolver properly set up there should be no trouble.

CAVEAT This only applies to Colt type revolvers. I cannot speak for Remington revolvers, don't have any, never had any, don't like 'em, think they are ugly as Rosie O'Donnell, so when it comes to Remington revolvers "Son you are on your own.
Un-frustrated with snail cappers
Bunk"

Bunk
honest ...... I had no idea they (cash capper) would do that - knowing Murphy as intimately as I do - I woulda bet that every one of those hundred woulda went in there upside down and that half of the ones I turned up woulda flipped back as I fiddled with the others - my son showed me the error of me ways last year - I thought he was bein flash when he showed me his new cash capper----n I sez how the heck do ya stand all them caps up right way? he just looked at me puzzled for a bit (like how dumb are ya old feller) - nah ya just tip em in give it a shake and they do it emselves.............................

Coffinmaker · March 06, 2019, 05:08:19 PM

It is very helpful if one remembers to utilize previously well trained Caps

greyhawk · March 06, 2019, 06:27:25 PM

Quote from: Coffinmaker on March 06, 2019, 05:08:19 PM
It is very helpful if one remembers to utilize previously well trained Caps

I need ya to help me wid a number fer this cap trainer dude - sounds like a specialist job - (did ya ever read "the specialist" - Chick Sale)

Isom · March 09, 2019, 01:22:20 PM

RM,
look into www.polishcappers.com , not cheap but understand they work very good.