Cimarron's new American model!

missourijack · August 28, 2023, 01:19:40 PM

Everyone is waiting for the .44 's to land. I want one in nickel. We shall see.

U.S.M.R. · October 12, 2023, 03:47:15 PM

Definitely very glad I got my 8" American in.45 Colt when I did. Waiting for one in.44 could be a while. Mine goes nicely with my Sharps and Trapdoors and my 76 in 45-75. I would like one in .44 but I'm happy with what I have.

Lettow · October 12, 2023, 07:44:36 PM

How many members here have one chambered in .44 Colt/Special and what barrel length? Mine is a 5". Have they made fewer than .45 Colt and .44-40 or is the demand so high that they just disappeared faster?

mtmarfield · October 16, 2023, 12:10:54 AM

Greetings!

Lettow, I have no idea; when I bought my WONDERFUL OM#3 .45Colt with a 5"bbl, I REALLY WANTED a .44R with an 8"bbl.
At first, I told myself that I'd sell my .45 if I found a .44R - 8", but it shoots my handholds SO WELL, that I truly believe that we
have become inseparable...
I await the importation of the beautiful OM #3 American, .44R with an 8"bbl., and the Dubloons to purchase it...!

M.T.M.
10-15-23

Speedballalice · December 27, 2023, 07:46:36 PM

Just a heads up to everyone. I received an email from Cimarron today that my 44 russian, 8"bbl American has arrived.
Don't know where I was on the wait list but has probably been around a 3 year wait, possibly more?

Speedballalice · December 28, 2023, 02:37:56 PM

Mine is inbound. Will post pics when I get it. 3 years and can't believe it's on its way. Wish it wouldn't have been around the holidays though. 😕

Johnson Barr · December 29, 2023, 01:55:46 PM

Mine came in two weeks ago. Wanted the nickel version buy after 3 years I'm more than happy with blued steel. Made the last match two Saturday's ago and will be shooting it again at tomorrow's match. The Blackhills smokeless .44 Russian ammo hits at point of aim. Pushing 8" of barrel out at the targets seems like using a hand-carbine. Sweet!!!

Lettow · December 29, 2023, 10:36:47 PM

How are the 8" .44s coming in right now marked for caliber? .44 Russian? Are the chambers actually .44 Russian or are they .44 Special.

My 5" is marked .44 Colt and will accept .44 Special.

Johnson Barr · December 31, 2023, 01:28:11 PM

That of course is the sad part of the story. The chambers are bored for .44 S&W Special cartridges.
The Barrel is marked on the left side in two lines; Line One: 44 Colt & Russian, Line Two: S&W Special

Yesterday was my second match since it arrived. Using only .44 Russian ammo. No misses. It'll-do!

U.S.M.R. · January 02, 2024, 01:40:28 PM

I called Cimarron this morning. I have an 8" barreled American in 44 Russian, Colt, and Special coming. Happy to get one.

U.S.M.R. · January 04, 2024, 03:42:09 PM

Just picked up my new American. All is right with the world.

Abilene · January 04, 2024, 04:19:27 PM

Quote from: U.S.M.R. on January 04, 2024, 03:42:09 PM
Just picked up my new American. All is right with the world.

Pictures or it didn't happen.

Speedballalice · January 04, 2024, 06:28:36 PM

Here is mine.

U.S.M.R. · January 18, 2024, 03:56:14 PM

On my new American I noticed that the back of the cylinder is marked with the caliber. My.45 is not. Working on the very heavy trigger pull with just the trigger spring. I've got it better but it still needs work. Those S&W's aren't the easiest guns to take apart and put back together.
My plan is to shorten.44 Special brass so that it will hold 23 grs. of powder. I will use the lube that I used when I shot with the N-SSA. A cup of Crisco with a marble sized chunk of beeswax. I could shoot the whole match if I had to with no problem.
In reply to mtmarfield that is what the screw is for. The early Americans used a different swivel than later models. It was rectangular shaped.

Abilene · January 18, 2024, 06:38:13 PM

Quote from: U.S.M.R. on January 18, 2024, 03:56:14 PM
...My plan is to shorten.44 Special brass so that it will hold 23 grs. of powder...

Maybe 44 Colt brass would work? I use 20-21 gr of BP in a Russian case, not sure what the 44 Colt would hold. Some of it will depend on the bullet.

U.S.M.R. · January 19, 2024, 12:46:38 PM

.44 Colt will hold about 25 grs. The reason I want to shorten.44 Special is because of the larger rim diameter. The Colt rim is pretty small to work as well.

missourijack · January 20, 2024, 11:32:07 AM

I got mine yesterday. .44 Special ! Beautiful piece ! I hope some custom grips are available for this pistol. Faux ivory or bone would really set off the deep blue.

Books OToole · January 21, 2024, 10:01:09 AM

Looking forward to some range time.

Books

Coffinmaker · January 21, 2024, 02:43:23 PM

U.S.M.R.

Don't actually know where yer going with a "shorten'd" 44 Special case. But and however, have you considered .44 Russian cases?? Same same Rim as the Special, a bit reduced volume ? ? ? MidwayUSA has 44 Russian available. Just a thought or three.

Black River Smith · January 21, 2024, 03:15:04 PM

Quote from: U.S.M.R. on January 18, 2024, 03:56:14 PM
My plan is to shorten.44 Special brass so that it will hold 23 grs. of powder.

Coffinmaker and all,

The 23 grains of BP and a 246 grain bullet is the Original loading for the generally accepted 44 Russian cartridge.
He is trying to reproduce the Original round in a solid base casing.

Good luck and just keep -- measuring BP; pouring in casing; marking casing; pouring BP out; then check with bullet for final measurement of OAL; file/trim casing to that marking; dummy load for bullet crimp. If OAL is correct then cut the rest of your casings. Test a few before cutting all your casing.

Have fun shooting.

PS. Also allow for compression of your powder. Remember, figuring out how to get there is half the fun of reloading specialty cartridges.