Cimarron's new American model!

[mtmarfield]

      Greetings, All!

   Over the span of two evenings, I took a double-handful of mixed head stamp  .45Colt's brass ( Just shy of 100 pcs. ), and cut them down to 1.095", the same length as my sample box of Starline .45 S&W Schofield brass. I then annealed the case mouths, and ran them through my old Hornady Titanium Nitride .45 Auto / .45 Long Colt 3 Die Set in my bid to create ".45 Colt's Government" cartridges for my OM #3.
   With a Reloading Manual starting charge of Alliant Unique ( 5.4gr. ) using my RCBS Little Dandy + #12 bushing, I capped half with CCI #300 Lg Pistol Primers, the other half with S&B Lg Pistol Primers recently acquired at Cabela's. These were corked with NEI #323A bullets ( .454-230HB ) that I had cast to a BHN-14. Crimp was light, just removing the flare, and gently pressing the case mouth into the bullet ogive, giving 1.404" OAL...
   Thus, I recreated the ".45 Colt's Govt." cartridge, in an effort to give myself not only a slightly more economical load, but also one that, by virtue of its shorter length, might eject and clear the cylinder a bit more freely from my Cimarron Old Model #3 Americans' cylinder. Which they almost always did.
   What they did do well was shoot rather accurately, neck-in-neck with my .45 Colt reloads in my previous post, about two and a half to three inches at 25yds, when my eyeballs were screwed in just right. Also, I was unable to discern any performance difference between the two brands of primers, neither was one fired primer materially different appearing from the other. Nonetheless, I would encourage you to seek out Published Reloading Data for S&B Primers.
   I'd say that they were a success! The biggest pain was cutting the .45 Colt's brass down, for the sometimes benefit of ejecting and clearing of fired cases from the cylinder. The simpler solution: buy a bag of Starline .45 S&W Schofield brass!

               M.T.M.
              5-25-22

[Fox Creek Kid]

I am beginning to lose faith in an 8" .44 Colt/Russian chambering. I can forgive them for releasing the .45 Colt version first in order to theoretically make more sales, but 44-40, really?   

[U.S.M.R.]

Fox Creek if you could find an American in.44-40 I would think that you could have a cylinder from a .44 Russian fitted.

[Jake MacReedy]

I'm with ya, Fox Creek!  Been on the waiting list for over two years to get an 8" .44Russian/Colt/Special!
Jake

[Graveyard Jack]

I decided not to hold out on a .44 American and got the 8" .45Colt. I may be tempted to get a 5" .44. Were I to add another, I'd probably rather have a 5" Schofield, as it's my favorite variant.



Followed closely by the New Model .44Spl.

[mtmarfield]

      Greetings, All!

   I've noticed that the bottom of the grip frame on my OM #3 has a screw in it, as if it was a filler screw for a lanyard ring... If that's the case, has someone tried to mount one?

                         M.T.Marfield

[paperchaser]

Well, talked with Cimarron today and have frankly decided to probably settle for a 5" in .44 special. They told me I could use 44 Russian; 44Colt AND 44 Special.  So I am now on that particular waiting list.  Ten months if lucky
Gee, maybe I should buy lottery tickets instead. LOL 

[Graveyard Jack]

So they are coming, guess I need to be prepared. 

[Jake MacReedy]

Looking for an 8" barrel in any caliber.  Have been on the list for an 8" .44 since December, 2019.
Jake

[Abilene]

Looking for an 8" barrel in any caliber.  Have been on the list for an 8" .44 since December, 2019.
Jake

Jake, I think they must have lost that list!  Maybe you should call again. 

[Graveyard Jack]

Looking for an 8" barrel in any caliber.  Have been on the list for an 8" .44 since December, 2019.
Jake

Only see one 8" on Gunbroker. Now it's all 5" .44's.

https://www.gunbroker.com/item/939343172

[Old No7]

I saw -- and got to handle -- a new Cimarron 5-inch American in .45 Colt at a shop earlier today.  It felt great!  And I had just told the clerk "how much better it handled" than the 7-inch Schofield version that I have in .38 Spcl -- when here comes the shop's big and burly gunsmith; and he quickly draws, snaps open, and empties rounds from a 3" Schofield (also in .45). Then he says "Here, try this one!" and lays it in my eager hands.

The dude -- easily 1.5 times as big as me -- carries a Schofield for personal defense!

It was a beauty for sure!  And I'll admit, I did like the way that it handled.

When the clerk asked "Is that all you carry?" his reply was classic -- "Yup, this is just so I have time to get to my rifle!"  Which, of course, is a slicked up Marlin leveraction in .45 Colt.

The guy (and me too) was born in the wrong century I think. 

Old No7

[DeaconKC]

The HKS speedloaders for the Model 29 or Model 25 will work with the Schofields! I tried it and they worked just fine. Who knows, I might try to carry one of mine sometime!

[Coffinmaker]

  Ah Ha 

Must admit, was a time not too long ago, I lusted after a pair of 3.5 inch Schofields.  Wanted 45s soz I could send 'em off for the Moon Clip modification. 

Youz guyz are giving me that particular LUST all over again.  I am NOT going back to (four letter wurd) just to afford 'em.  No sireee bob I ain't.

Mumble mumble sniffle (allergies)

[DeaconKC]

Mentioning 3 1/2" Schofield, I had to send mine in for a factory replacement on the cylinder. One of the chambers was so oversized it would split the fired case from the mouth almost to the web! But they stepped right up and are fixing it for me, just waiting for it to find it's way home from Texas. Makes a nice pair with my 5".

[Coffinmaker]

  Zounds 

Have a good friend her in the East.  Won just about everything there was to win in Classique Cowpatty with a pair of Schofield 3.5 inch 45s.  Finally had to give 'em up when they started exhibiting function problems.  Mid Match of course. 

I'm still starting to suffer that itch.

[Roosterman]

I'm holding out for  one in .44 American......

[Fox Creek Kid]

Is there any HARD news regarding the American Model in .44 Colt/Russian yet or just more of...

[Jake MacReedy]

Fox Creek, the last I heard, they had loaded the .44 Colt/Russian Americans with 8" barrels on the back of their rainbow-colored unicorns and the pack train was on its way!.....at least that's what I heard!
....been waiting on one of these for years now!!!
Jake

[Black River Smith]

Does anyone have any new/updated info on the American in 44Spec hitting the USA anytime?

Thanks
BRS