44 Special from Cimarron

Started by yahoody, July 05, 2018, 11:40:28 AM

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yahoody

Pretty happy with this one.  Played with the new safety from Uberti for 10 minutes.  Decided it wasn't something I wanted and changed out hammer and trigger for the older, more traditional Colt style, 4 click, parts from Uberti.

Spot on for windage to 25 yards.  Only needed to cut the front sight down some for my 240 gr loads to get POI/POA.



At 15 yards above, between file sessions.  25 yards ended up a similar size and spot on if I did my part.

Guns that shoot this well I think deserve nice grips.  These are Big Horn Sheep.  I sure am pleased.


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yahoody

Thanks King.  One of Jim @ Trailrider Products  working rigs to use on the horse.  Really nice leather work and superb business ethic @ Trailrider.  Always a pleasure to work with Jim.






 
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Galloway

I handled a version with the new safety also, but couldnt warm up to it. Seems like a pain to order a new old style hammer and hope it times right? I sure like your gun though nice shooting!

yahoody

Quote from: Galloway...Seems like a pain to order a new old style hammer and hope it times right?...?€??€?.

Thank you and I sure agree with your sentiments. FWIW I have changed hammers out on 6 new Ubertis recently and the timing has not changed on any of them.  Spot on perfect timing out of the box and it stayed that way after I changed the hammer.  Good machining from Uberti's.  Never happen on a Colt for sure.


I keep wondering why anyone would ever buy a Colt (including myself  ::) )
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Oregon Bill

That's really pleasing accuracy out of a really pleasing sixgun. Congratulations!

yahoody

Thanks.  I have sure been happy with it.  Boxed up my Colts and stuck them back in the safe...sadly.   No reason other than I don't think any of them are the guns the Ubertis are these days.

I bought a BP framed 44 Special, fit up a new 44-40 cylinder, and added fake ivory grips.  It shoots like the cross pin frame gun with either cartridge but has the smaller V notch /tapered blade front sight.  This one sits on my night stand now.


   
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Oregon Bill

Need a like button! Nothing not to love the way that one groups, either.

:D

Coal Creek Griff

Quote from: Oregon Bill on December 03, 2018, 12:44:13 PM
NNothing not to love the way that one groups, either.

Hrmph.  Shoots kind of high.  ;)

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PS--On the off-hand chance that someone thinks that I'm serious, that is outstanding accuracy!
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yahoody

Thanks Griff.

I've had better shooting guns...just not much better   ::)

I like my guns to hit just above POA at 20/25 yards.  That gives ya some room for error at 50   ;D

Prior to the new grips but good that the gun and ammo are consistent!



 

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Rowdy Fulcher

Yahoody
Nice grips may I ask where they came from . Also nice groups .

yahoody

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Nice grips may I ask where they came from?

Thanks Rowdy.
Material is Resin-Ivory-S

it can be had here:
https://guitarpartsandmore.com/mainCategory.php?Resin-Ivory-trade-Gun-Grip-Blanks-58

I found Resin S is virtually the same weight as real ivory to the gram. I put the R-S blanks and a pair of similar sized elephant ivory blanks on a postal scale to find that out.   Same feel when wet as well...sticky.
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RRio

Quote from: yahoody on July 05, 2018, 10:28:25 PM
Thanks King.  One of Jim @ Trailrider Products  working rigs to use on the horse.  Really nice leather work and superb business ethic @ Trailrider.  Always a pleasure to work with Jim.





Great lookin' grips.
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yahoody

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russ1943

Quote from: yahoody on December 03, 2018, 03:42:52 PM
Thanks Griff.

I've had better shooting guns...just not much better   ::)

I like my guns to hit just above POA at 20/25 yards.  That gives ya some room for error at 50   ;D

Prior to the new grips but good that the gun and ammo are consistent!


 

Real Nice!


russ1943

In 44-40 what were you shooting,  load wise

yahoody

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In 44-40 what were you shooting,  load wise


Hi Russ,

Starline brass, Win lg pistol primers, 8.3gr Unique, 200gr Oregon Trail Laser cast lead rnfp, sized .427". 
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russ1943

That is the almost the load I shoot. 8.1grns of Unique, 200 grms .427 cast bullet from a local manufacturer. I never get that accuracy from my Navy Arms Uberti 44-40 7.5 barrel. I was wondering if it could be 44spc barrel vs the 44-40 barrel. I was surprised to learn from looking at the Cimarron chart that the barrel bore for 44spc is smaller than the 44-40.

CAL. .44 S&W SPC   20"(508)   RH   .417(10.59)   .429(10.90)   6   .1076(2.73)
                  
                       
CAL..44-40           20"(508)    RH    .4215(10.7)   .429(10.90)   6   .1327(3.37)
                  
                  

My reloading manuals Lyman 1967, 2002 have bullet size for 44-40 .427, and .43 for 44spc could .0045 make the difference. I always thought that the bore of the 44-40 was smaller than the 44spc. Should I be getting a 44spc with a 44-40 cylinder.  I have been doing the opposite for  years, getting a 44-40 with a extra 44spc cylinder.   

yahoody

I use 44-40 Cal. 200g RNFP .427 in my Uberti 44-40 and 44 Cal. 240g SWC .431 in my 44 Special.
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King Medallion

I use .428 in all 7 of my 44-40's, never slugged a barrel. I have pushed an unfired bullet at the muzzle, none ever fell in so I figger they must be big enough, right?
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