Dilema

[Blair]

Two points,

First is that the modern methods of heat and oxygen control during the "color" case hardening process today makes for a much more durable and longer lasting "color". The older method of bone charcoal case hardening has a tendency to fad with strong sun light. This fading does not cause a loss of the carbon hardness, only in the colors.

Two, is that I believe that the .38-56 cartridge is best reproduced with either the .50-70 or the .348 cartridge cases, not the .45-70.
My best,
Blair 

[Coal Creek Griff]

I believe that the .38-56 cartridge is best reproduced with either the .50-70 or the .348 cartridge cases, not the .45-70.

I'm no doubt going to show my ignorance here since I don't have a .38-56 rifle, just a cartridge in my collection.  I'd have thought that the .38-56 was a direct modification of the .45-70.  On the other hand, listed above among those cartridges that can be formed from the .45-70 is the .45-75 Win.  That cartridge would need the .50-90 or .348 Win as a base/donor case.

OK, I'm ready to be set straight--you guys have way more knowledge than I do...

CC Griff

[greyhawk]

I'm no doubt going to show my ignorance here since I don't have a .38-56 rifle, just a cartridge in my collection.  I'd have thought that the .38-56 was a direct modification of the .45-70.  On the other hand, listed above among those cartridges that can be formed from the .45-70 is the .45-75 Win.  That cartridge would need the .50-90 or .348 Win as a base/donor case.

OK, I'm ready to be set straight--you guys have way more knowledge than I do...

CC Griff

Griff
You got it right in my books 38/56 is a 45/70 derivative ......45/75 needs 348 - even that is too skinny at the base

[Ranch 13]

38-56 use the 45-70 as the parent case.
45-75 wcf would be from the 348 case which was based on the 50-110, however Sharps called the 45-70 , 45-75 as they loaded it with 75 grains of powder and a paper patch bullet.

[greyhawk]

38-56 use the 45-70 as the parent case.
45-75 wcf would be from the 348 case which was based on the 50-110, however Sharps called the 45-70 , 45-75 as they loaded it with 75 grains of powder and a paper patch bullet.

Wouldnt that have then been designated 45/75 SHARPS it should have been -- I think this sharps reference brings  un necessary confusion to the story.

[Drydock]

Actual Sharps nomenclature referred to cartridges by calibre and case length for just this reason.  Thus what we call the .45-70, Sharps literature would refer to it as the .45-2 1/10. (2 and 1/10 inch case length)