My recommendation to Henry Fiearms

treebeard · May 06, 2018, 02:46:37 PM

Received an email from Henry Firearms on a new product recommendation. I suggested a small frame Spencer in 44-40 such as the example at the firearms museum in Cody. Do not know the economics but would love to have one.

Major 2 · May 06, 2018, 03:31:25 PM

Got the same, I suggested a 66 Yellow boy

Abilene · May 06, 2018, 08:50:06 PM

I didn't get it. I would have suggested a Mare's Leg '60 Henry

Herbert · May 06, 2018, 10:33:42 PM

Quote from: treebeard on May 06, 2018, 02:46:37 PM
Received an email from Henry Firearms on a new product recommendation. I suggested a small frame Spencer in 44-40 such as the example at the firearms museum in Cody. Do not know the economics but would love to have one.

100% agree

Dave T · May 07, 2018, 09:58:25 AM

Had they asked me I would have recommended a 1860 Henry chambered for the 44 Russian cartridge. That would be close enough to the 44 Henry CF to be a delight to own and shoot. (smiley face goes here)

Dave

Jbar4Ranch · May 07, 2018, 10:29:14 AM

Quote from: Dave T on May 07, 2018, 09:58:25 AM
Had they asked me I would have recommended a 1860 Henry chambered for the 44 Russian cartridge. That would be close enough to the 44 Henry CF to be a delight to own and shoot. (smiley face goes here)

Dave

That's the exact same request I made!

treebeard · May 07, 2018, 01:21:32 PM

When they are thru taking suggestions I would love to see the spreadsheet on the requests!,

Blair · May 07, 2018, 01:27:01 PM

When the first Spencer repo carbines came out, they were in .44 Russian.
I was shooting a lot of .44 R with BP in original S&W revolvers, so I had to have one. (serial number 10) And would not give it up.
My repro Spencer shoots very well, but is not as competitive in this sport as a Henry or 1866's.
It is in MHO that this subject belongs in the Henry Section where the .44 Russian cal. best belongs.
I would have one in a heart beat!
My best,
Blair

treebeard · May 07, 2018, 03:00:22 PM

I believe a Spencer is easily within the capability of the Henry Firearms Company. Looking at the variety of firearms they make tells me that they are willing to look at diversification. That being said I am not holding my breath waiting for it to actually happen. I shoot Spencers for the sheer fun of it and leave competition to others.

Major 2 · May 07, 2018, 03:47:37 PM

a 44 Russian in the current H011R, is a simple chambering alteration
I'd be on board
But, I have the 44/40 and doubt I buy a 4th Henry , just for 44 Russian $:-\$

But I think using H011 base and build the 66 is the best "bang" for their profit line
and I would buy one

Roscoe · May 07, 2018, 08:29:14 PM

I suggested they make a side loader so it could be reloaded on the clock and taken seriously by CAS shooters, while getting approved for matches. I also suggested they make shotguns and stop conceding that business to Japan, Turkey, and Italy.

Dave T · May 08, 2018, 11:03:58 AM

Quote from: Roscoe on May 07, 2018, 08:29:14 PMI also suggested they make shotguns and stop conceding that business to Japan, Turkey, and Italy.

DITTO!

Dave

FriscoCounty · May 09, 2018, 12:02:15 AM

Yep, an 1860 Henry in .44 Russian is definitely on my wish list.

El Supremo · May 09, 2018, 09:14:24 AM

Hello:
Sorry to wonder out loud, but given the present prices for both repro Spencers and Henry's "Original" , an entirely new model such as a small frame Spencer could be a big issue.

I scoped the Original Henry in both "brass" and case hardened versions. The suggested, hard to swallow, prices can be less from friendly places, but am not sure the bore is as compatible with black powder and cast bullets. Their techy told me the grooves are .003" to .004", which is for jacketed bullets and smokeless. Maybe they changed that in the past couple years. If not, a $400 barrel lining job might be needed. Just my two-cent opinion.

And, per an expert here who has handled one: The edges of the beautiful "brass" frame have been over-polished and are more rounded. Esthetics matter to some.

Tx.
El Supremo/Kevin Tinny

treebeard · May 09, 2018, 09:42:32 AM

Quote from: El Supremo on May 09, 2018, 09:14:24 AM
Hello:
Sorry to wonder out loud, but given the present prices for both repro Spencers and Henry's "Original" , an entirely new model such as a small frame Spencer could be a big issue.

I scoped the Original Henry in both "brass" and case hardened versions. The suggested, hard swallow, prices can be less from friendly places, but am not sure the bore is as compatible with black powder and cast bullets. Their techy told me the grooves are .003" to .004", which is for jacketed bullets and smokeless. Maybe they changed that in the past couple years. If not, a $400 barrel lining job might be needed. Just my two-cent opinion. Tx.
El Supremo/Kevin Tinny

I agree that a new lining is the way to go. Bobby Hoyt has done a number for me with 100% satisfaction. If I am going to pay $2000 plus for a new rifle I would like it to be unique and otherwise not available.

Two Flints · May 09, 2018, 12:45:54 PM

Gentlemen,

Not to sound like an old fart, but wouldn't this discussion have been better served in the Henry 1860 Forum

Two Flints

Blair · May 09, 2018, 02:52:42 PM

Two Flints,

Based on my reply #7, I very much agree!
My best,
Blair

Coal Creek Griff · May 09, 2018, 02:57:56 PM

Quote from: treebeard on May 06, 2018, 02:46:37 PM
I suggested a small frame Spencer in 44-40...

I see why the OP placed the thread here, although the topic appears to have widened/shifted...

(Just an outsider looking in.)

CC Griff

treebeard · May 10, 2018, 04:00:40 PM

I thought that there would be more sympathy for a small frame Spencer on the Spencer site!

Major 2 · May 10, 2018, 06:48:05 PM

Well , its sorta like selling your Ford to a Chevy crowd