Oh my! A Uberti 1858 Gated Conversion headed my way.

Started by Tuolumne Lawman, December 16, 2017, 09:29:10 PM

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Quote from: Baltimore Ed on February 04, 2018, 04:37:34 PM
Major, speaking of knuckle knockers, my sa's are old model vaqueros and with my arthritis in the middle knuckle that gets knocked they have become a little uncomfortable to shoot. I have reduced the powder charge, the next thing would be to lighten the bullet. But have you ever reshaped the front of the grip frame or rear of the guard to eliminate this? Has anyone?

Greetings My Dear Ed -

I recall a fellow with huge hands who silver soldered more metal to the backstrap and ground away some from thefront of the grip frame
on his Pietta, there is quite a bit of metal there.

I have hogged away some as well, in pursuit of the ever-popular "burd head grip"

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Tuolumne Lawman

Speaking of "knuckle knocking," the Gated Remington, even though it is an Uberti, still beat up my knuckle of my middle finger. At the local match, shooting 25 rounds from it, it wasn't too bad. At the annual match where I fired about 100 rounds from the Remington, my knuckle was bruised and sore.  It was so bad that the last day, I double wrapped it in two bandages for padding.... Hrumph. The only two shots I dropped at the match were on the last stage with the Remington because I was flinching so bad. A week later and it is still sore...  You would not think that the 1860 grip would be that much different, but it is.
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Quote from: Tuolumne Lawman on June 03, 2018, 11:24:21 AM
Speaking of "knuckle knocking," the Gated Remington, even though it is an Uberti, still beat up my knuckle of my middle finger. At the local match, shooting 25 rounds from it, it wasn't too bad. At the annual match where I fired about 100 rounds from the Remington, my knuckle was bruised and sore.  It was so bad that the last day, I double wrapped it in two bandages for padding.... Hrumph. The only two shots I dropped at the match were on the last stage with the Remington because I was flinching so bad. A week later and it is still sore...  You would not think that the 1860 grip would be that much different, but it is.

Ah My Good toluene Tolumnyj Lawman...   

That must be why Remington modified the frame for the model 1875 cartridge revolver.

Have you considered rebuilding or modifying the trigger guard (and trigger if req'd) ? That has been done by others with such issues.
It seems a shame to damage ones knuckles....

Or other frame mods as discussed elsewhere?

I myself would even entertain a modification to make it more like a R&S , although that does destroy the historicity....
Or gawd help me, force it to accept an 1860 grip!  Bwahahahahaha!

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Tuolumne Lawman

Off the fence!  Decided to sell the 1858 gated.  I much prefer the 51/60 grips on the Colt conversions.  Switching to an R&D cylinder in an 1860 to go with my Type II Richards....  Less than I have in it, as I had to pay dealer fees to get it for the article.

https://www.sassnet.com/forums/index.php?/topic/277184-wts-cimarron-uberti-1858-gated-conversion-45-coltschofield-cowboy-chronicle-article-gun/

I started getting knuckle knock at High Sierra, then noticed it again at the match yesterday.  No Knuckle Knock from my Colt OT grips/  I must have fat knuckles!  I do have big hands, though.
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Galloway

Does anyone know which caliber the original gated nma conversions were chambered in? 46rimfire or 44martin centerfire or both? I believe the gateless were 6 shots for the martin cartridge. Thanks

Tuolumne Lawman

Quote from: Galloway on August 29, 2018, 07:42:50 AM
Does anyone know which caliber the original gated nma conversions were chambered in? 46rimfire or 44martin centerfire or both? I believe the gateless were 6 shots for the martin cartridge. Thanks

Usually 44 Martin.  Most .46 Rimfires were thin plate conversions.  There are, however, few absolutes with Conversion revolvers.  Private conversions may be found in unusual calibers both with and without a loading gate. IIRC, there was a five shot .45 Colt Long Cylinder Conversion discovered with a loading gate.

About 25 years ago, I handled an original .46 Rimfire.  That gave me the conversion bug.
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I just purchased one of those 1858 Gated Conversions in .45 Colt.  I really like it and it was very accurate with my .45 Schofields with a 250 grain RCBS RN.  The only complaint is the front sight.  With my damaged eyes, I could hardly see it.  So now it is at my gunsmith's to get a wider front sight.  I'm sure that it will be a great BP gun in my collection.
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