Cimarron's 1862 pocket police conversion update

[Galloway]

https://www.ubertireplicas.com/product/1862-police-conversion/

[Galloway]

Your right dave thats not uberti usa my mistake.

[nativeshootist]

Here's a video about the pistol. It has a spring on the arbor,  kinda interesting

[ammodave]

Apparently the 2nd shipment of these little beauties have arrived.  They're available at Buds, the Gallery of Guns and Gunbroker.  I ordered one from Bunbroker (slightly cheaper) about $527 delivered.

[Johnson Barr]

The issues pointed out in the video were present on my 1st shipment  pistol. I stripped the the firing group out of the frame and re-staked the arbor locking pin in the hammer channel with a center punch and shop hammer to remove the arbor 'wiggle'. The arbor 'spring' was solved by discarding the spring and then drill the end of the arbor and tapping the hole for a 1/4" long 4-40 cap head screw. The cap head screw was shorten to get the proper arbor length, barrel pins and frame fitting. Mr. Pettifogger's excellent 'Open Top Fitting' articles will guide you through the fitting process. I've eliminated all the wiggles and fit the wedge for thumb pressure seating and take down. I've found that dis-mounting the barrel to reload the cylinder with my modified .38 Short Colt brass loads easier than using my fat thumbs to use the loading port.

[ammodave]

After months of procrastinating, I finally chopped the barrel on mine and fitted a new slightly taller front sight.  Boy, this little sucker is hard to cock.  Any spring kits available for this model to ease the wear and tear on my little "girly" hands?

[Abilene]

If anybody wants something a little blingier, I noticed Cimarron had one nickled gun in stock.

[ammodave]

Abilene:  Got a link?  I can't find it on their website. 

[Abilene]

Ammodave, I am privy to the inventory list that they send to select dealers.   

[ammodave]

Is just the grip frame nickel or the whole pistol?  Got a pic?

[Abilene]

The whole gun.  No picture - it was listed in the Excel file inventory list.  The model number is CA057N00, with the N00 denoting nickled.

[ammodave]

Thanks, I was considering nickel plating just the brass grip frame.

[Abilene]

That should be pretty easy and would look good.

[OklaTom]

If anybody wants something a little blingier, I noticed Cimarron had one nickled gun in stock.

I sent a request to Sales for that nickel gun if still available. I have not heard back, I expect to tomorrow.

I reamed the cylinder of one of my 62 conversions to allow the longer 38 Short Colt. One needs to ream it with a 38 Long Colt reamer to get the length without having the reader shoulder impacting the ratchet. Also, the rim diameter of 38 Short Colt needs to be turned down to .410 to clear the ratchet. There is not enough meat between the ratchet teeth to ream for the full diameter 38 Colt rim. I run my lead bullets through a .356 sizer prior to loading them. It shoots well.

I wrote a review/range test article for the NCOWS magazine ?The Shootist? comparing the use of the factory 380 ACP and 38 Short Colt performance. It was in the latest issue, if you are an NCOWS member.

[StrawHat]

I have a question for anyone who owns one of these or at least has access to one. Has Uberti changed the dimensions of this revolver compared to the C&B version?  When they first converted the belt models to 45 they had dimension caused issues and needed to ?bulk up? the frames and barrel. Totally messed with the feel and balance. And, since one size fits all is cheaper to produce, the C&B revolvers suffered the same fate.

If you don?t have a new and an old one to compare, I can post dimensions if someone is willing to measure and post what the current sizes are.

Kevin

[Abilene]

Strawhat, when Uberti started making conversion revolvers, they did increase the size slightly so they could chamber .44 Spcl and .45 Schofield rims.  This was also done so bores would not line up between cartridge and percussion guns, to prevent putting the softer steel percussion barrels on conversions. 

But they did not increase the size of their C&B guns. 

As for the little .380, I do not know.

[ammodave]

I only have the conversion.  What dimensions are you looking for?

[StrawHat]

For starters, let's go with frame width at front and rear of cylinder, cylinder diameter, and barrel width over the wedge.

Thank you.

How do the little bugger shoot for you?

Kevin

[ammodave]

Frame width in front of the cylinder is .656", rear of cylinder is .762",  cylinder diameter is 1.318",  barrel width over the wedge is .659".  Unfortunately, I haven't shot it yet.  I was dragging my feet until I got the barrel shortened and then the shelter in place protocol started.  Any idea how to reduce the cocking effort?

[Abilene]

...  Any idea how to reduce the cocking effort?

I don't think there are any spring kits available for the pocket pistols.  The main spring can be ground thinner, but the easiest and quickest thing you can do is add a washer under the main spring.  It won't be a big difference, but should be noticeable.