What are these called?

Started by Ben Beam, April 13, 2017, 09:34:01 AM

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Ben Beam

In this photo, it appears that the two seated parties have what look like leather cuffs that go up from the top of their footwear to just below the knee. Like a cross between boots and chaps: http://photos.legendsofamerica.com/oldwestlawmenandgunfighters/h7ae19a1

I'm sure this is a simple thing I should already know, but I don't. Anyone know what those are called? Thanks!

Edit: Looks like they're "Botas?"
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St. George

They're called 'boots...

Boots with a 16" 'stovepipe' - worn with spurs and their straps.

The 'bota' was laced/tied on - resembling nothing so much as a gaiter.

What you see isn't that.

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Major 2

Robert is right...Boots

Bota's are a different thing altogether
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Mogorilla

I think you are seeing the distinct bottom of the spur strap.  Just my thoughts.

Ben Beam

Ahhh. The spur strap was what was throwing me off. The ironic thing was that I was trying to find the name for Botas and looked for a picture for reference, and the one I found turned out not to be Botas.  ::)

Thanks for your patience. I have a lot of questions. :)
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Coffinmaker

I thought it interesting, both seated "gentlemen" are displaying Colt Conversions.  Nifty.

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PS:  there was also the dummy with his 66 Carbine, with the muzzle in the dirt.  Some bright that.

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Niederlander

Quote from: Coffinmaker on April 13, 2017, 12:39:46 PM
I thought it interesting, both seated "gentlemen" are displaying Colt Conversions.  Nifty.

Coffinmaker

PS:  there was also the dummy with his 66 Carbine, with the muzzle in the dirt.  Some bright that.
I believe that's a '73.  I've never like setting a rifle on it's muzzle regardless of surface.
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Niederlander

Just checked the larger photo in Time-Life "The Gunfighters".  Definitely a '73, for what it's worth.
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St. George

There's a better than even chance that these are studio props, and the photo taken for a trio of Easterners 'out West'.

Photography studios usually kept a wide variety of clothing, hats, boots, gun belts and weapons - even buckskin outfits - so the tourists could dress up for the folks back home.

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Ben Beam

Quote from: St. George on April 13, 2017, 10:36:56 PM
There's a better than even chance that these are studio props, and the photo taken for a trio of Easterners 'out West'.

Photography studios usually kept a wide variety of clothing, hats, boots, gun belts and weapons - even buckskin outfits - so the tourists could dress up for the folks back home.

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I've always wondered about those photos. When did those start becoming popular? Seeing as I usually see them as snapshots and not cabinet cards, I'd guess around 1900 and after. Seems like those photos are always where I saw the shag carpet chaps.
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St. George

They became popular with the death of the old frontier that coincided with the first Wild West Show on May 19, 1883 in Omaha, Nebraska,

Photographers all had these props - even during the era of the Daguerreotypes during the Civil War - and they 'went West' as the population started to move after that war.

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Niederlander

I personally doubt this picture is a "studio prop" effort.  Usually, the people in those pictures don't look "comfortable" for lack of a better term.  These guys look thoroughly at home in those clothes and with those guns.
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River City John

That feller on the right needs to keep his finger out of the trigger guard. His pard on the left knows proper gun safety . . .


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Ben Beam

I would think that with the cost of a rifle being such an investment back then (even these days!) that they would take care of it, but maybe this fellow either didn't know any better--or was the inspiration for Roscoe Brown in Lonesome Dove, if you get my meaning.
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Coal Creek Griff

There are actually a number of photos where the subject is posing with a long gun muzzle on the ground.  They are not all easterners. I've seen ones with US Marshals George Gard and Bill Tilghman, for example. I wouldn't do it or advise it, of course, but apparently it was more common in the past. Neither of those two photos were studio photos,  by the way.

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