Lead bullets now OK in Fed Parks. Thanks, President Trump!

Started by Dick Dastardly, March 03, 2017, 06:46:42 PM

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Dick Dastardly

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/mar/2/interior-secretary-zinke-scraps-ban-lead-bullets/

So, it seems we have made a move closer to reality.  Go ahead and cast your Big Lube ® bullets, shoot Cowboy Action with them, use them for hunting and don't be worried about Liberal Activists telling you can't.

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Quote from: Dick Dastardly on March 03, 2017, 06:46:42 PM
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/mar/2/interior-secretary-zinke-scraps-ban-lead-bullets/

So, it seems we have made a move closer to reality.  Go ahead and cast your Big Lube ® bullets, shoot Cowboy Action with them, use them for hunting and don't be worried about Liberal Activists telling you can't.

DD-MDA

I only wonder why you folks in the US of A call Liberal to a bunch of NAZIS in desguise.  :o

Crow Choker

Quote from: hellgate on March 04, 2017, 04:16:38 PM
Good post DD.

Yes indeed DD, Good to hear.

Quote from: Scattered Thumbs on March 04, 2017, 04:21:24 PM
I only wonder why you folks in the US of A call Liberal to a bunch of NAZIS in desguise.  :o
Huh? Who are the Nazis, the former administration or the current?  ??? :o
I know this has nothing to do with black powder shooting, but you (Scat Thmbs) made the accusation.
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Dick Dastardly

I won't go political, but I do enjoy shooting cast bullets.  In fact, all the way from .222 Rem thru 45-70 Govt, my guns all have cast bullets to shoot.  Yes, I do use jacketed bullets for some high intensity guns (.6.5mm Gibbs) etc, however I do like to be able to shoot cast bullets out of any of my guns.  The only one I've not mastered cast bullets with is the 8mm Rem Mag.  I just can't find an accurate load for that giant case that I can throttle down to cast bullet velocities.

All that said, my Cowboy Action guns all get cast bullets pushed along by black powder.  Just a side note, I just shot 20 rounds of 45-70 cast DD-45-70 500 grain RNSP Big Lube bullets to inside 1.5 moa groups.  Cast bullets and black powder is no slouch.  Casting six at a pour is a real time saver.

On the smaller end, I loaded up and shot some 38-55 rounds with EPP-36 90 grain bullets that fit a single hole at 50 yards.  This is a real rabbit getter.

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Scattered Thumbs

Quote from: Crow Choker on March 04, 2017, 05:31:51 PM
Yes indeed DD, Good to hear.
Huh? Who are the Nazis, the former administration or the current?  ??? :o
I know this has nothing to do with black powder shooting, but you (Scat Thmbs) made the accusation.
Forgive me Cutts!

I mean the likes of the former. Wanting to curtail rights and individual freedom is not being a liberal. Not  in my book.

Edit. Went way off topic. Sorry.

wildman1

Depending on what country you live in "liberal" means different things.
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Quote from: wildman1 on March 05, 2017, 07:02:10 AM
Depending on what country you live in "liberal" means different things.
wM1

Maybe that explains it.  :)

Dick Dastardly

The point of my original post was that it now looks more like the anti-lead greenie tree hugger socialists won't prevail in their demand that we quit using lead bullets for hunting.  I'd also like to see a return to lead shot for waterfowl hunting.  I have some black powder scatterguns that could make a few more trips to the blind for duck hunting.  Perhaps there is some return to sanity.

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I guess the anti-environment, wildlife hating Fascists won this round!

In other words, there's reporting facts and there's name calling. This presentation falls pretty firmly into the latter.  ::)
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Quote from: wildman1 on March 05, 2017, 07:02:10 AM
Depending on what country you live in "liberal" means different things.
wM1
You hit it right wildman1. I've noticed that in Communist counties the conservatives are the Ol Soviet style era wannabe's and the liberals are the one's we all root for the freedoms we enjoy in the US for their countries. Here in the USA the meanings and distinctions are different.
Quote from: Scattered Thumbs on March 05, 2017, 02:59:00 AM
I mean the likes of the former. Wanting to curtail rights and individual freedom is not being a liberal. Not  in my book.

Edit. Went way off topic. Sorry.
I guess Thumbs since you don't live in the US, you may not be aware what 'the liberals' have been trying to do for the last 40 some years, esp the last 20.
I don't like to get off topic from Dicks post about the lifting of the lead gun ban, which is good, but the liberals and people behind that in the first place had nothing but the elimination of all conventional bullets and the implantation of who knows what kind of inefficient projectile and the ultimate ban of ammo and firearms. That's how they work, start little and allow 'the ball' to gather momentum.  They (the libs) (and it can be proven)had an agenda and desire to have America end up as some of the European countries where private gun ownership is banned and/or a PITA to buy and own. Nope Thumbs, you guys can keep your anine gun laws over there, we'll corral our libs here, keeping a leash on em, not letting them get to far.
  Not sure what SchoolBoy is talking about. Think there is some confusion between the troops as to who is saying what and who is on who's side. Maybe it's just me. Not calling anyone names or attempting to cause an argument, don't think anyone else is either. Although it is written, "A tree is known by it's fruit"! Think I'll sit a while, observe and see where this one goes. Guess this political discussion has nothing to do with the actual shooting of blackpowder firearms, it's tied in as far as gun rights, but sometimes things need to be said and clarified.
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Blackpowder Burn

Black powder = lead bullets.  I'm a black powder shooter, so this is great news.

As someone said, it's nice to see the occasional dose of sanity in The Swamp (DC).

I hope to see more in the near future.
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Dick Dastardly

So, I shoot my bp gun loaded with lead projectiles over the swamp.  I defy the most dedicated environmentalist to show me a single casualty caused by my shooting lead ammo over his precious puddle.  As I poke another charge of black powder followed by a like quantity of lead shot down the muzzle of my fouling piece, I'll smile at him in his frustration.

This issue is about control, not Bambi.  The greenies don't give a shit about Bambi.

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Cowtown

Quote from: Dick Dastardly on March 05, 2017, 10:06:38 PM
This issue is about control, not Bambi.  The greenies don't give a shit about Bambi.
DD-MDA

Yup. Hit the nail right on the head with a lead ball from an 1860 Army at 25 paces.


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