1847 Walker screw up

Started by pistol1911, February 05, 2017, 07:57:45 AM

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pistol1911

I ordered a Walker from Midway. Looked great out of the box. I cleaned the oil from the outside, removed the wedge, rotated the cylinder, applied pressure with the ram, the barrel wouldn't move. To make a long story short, I bent the ram getting the barrel off. My Bubba story for the week.

Major 2

It will bend back ... 

Plastic mallet and two blocks of wood
when planets align...do the deal !

Coffinmaker

Oh Brother.

Now that you have it apart ....... DO NOT put it back together until you have de-burred the arbor hole n the barrel lug and de-burred. and polished the arbor.  You want a nice easy slip fit.  Then be sure to check for Barrel to Arbor fit.  Fix it if needed (most likely needed).

Coffinmaker

PS:  Special tool.  Take a spring clothespin apart.  Turn it inside out.  Put it between the barrel lug and cylinder face, bevel to bevel then whack em together with a mallet.  Should pop a recalcitrant barrel right off.

Pettifogger

Quote from: Coffinmaker on February 06, 2017, 07:01:42 PM
Oh Brother.

Now that you have it apart ....... DO NOT put it back together until you have de-burred the arbor hole n the barrel lug and de-burred. and polished the arbor.  You want a nice easy slip fit.  Then be sure to check for Barrel to Arbor fit.  Fix it if needed (most likely needed).

Coffinmaker

PS:  Special tool.  Take a spring clothespin apart.  Turn it inside out.  Put it between the barrel lug and cylinder face, bevel to bevel then whack em together with a mallet.  Should pop a recalcitrant barrel right off.


Spring tension clothes pin?  Do they still sell clothes pins?  You're old!!!   :D

LonesomePigeon

Including mine, this is the 3rd brand new Uberti Walker I've read about with a hard to remove barrel in the last year and a half.

Coffinmaker

PETTIFOGGER!!   :o

Ah ......... yer right!!   ;D

I don't remember how long I've had this bag of Clothes Pins.  There is a lot of dust on the bag.  Then again, there is all that dust when I ....... ah Break Wind??    ::)  ;D  ;D  ;D

Coffinmaker

pony express

Oh, you can still buy clothes pins. You can even buy wood ones. What kind of wood is debatable. What's even more debatable is if they will withstand a mallet whack.

Navy Six

It seems like Ubertis' solution to their "short" arbor situation is to make the arbor/hole relationship a very tight fit instead of correcting the length. This is particularily noticeable on recent Walkers and Dragoons. I bought a pair of Uberti 2nd model Dragoons about two years ago and had a heck of a time getting the barrels off. When you do get them off, take Coffinmakers advice about deburring everything before trying to put the barrel back on.
Only Blackpowder Is Interesting 
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pistol1911

I found it was more than de-burring. The barrel was loose on the arbor except for the last 1/2 inch. When inline with the frame and easy to get off with the lever I quit. It is still tight, but not anything like it was. I can remove the wedge with thumb pressure.

Bunk Stagnerg


think I posted my woes with a 3rd Model Dragoon. The problem was finally figured out by a machinist friend of mile that the alignment pins on the frame were not square with holes in the barrel.  It would appear that the CNC was off a number or two.
So check the alignment of the locating pins and see if that might be the problem. It worked for me. Like Coffinmaker said de burr everything. That ain't the S&W Custom shop that turns those guns out.
Yr' Obt' Svt'
Bunk

pistol1911

In my case it was not the pins. The arbor was too large or the frame too small. Since the arbor was loose except for the last 1/2 inch I reduced the diameter of it to solve the problem.

Bunk Stagnerg

Pistol1911
You solved that problem but be patient more will come. These guns have a fun but long learning curve.Most of the woes on my Dragoon have been sorted out and a Dragoon could be considered a small improved Walker.
When you get it working it is a hoot to shoot, but stay with reasonable powder charges. I have an old ASM Walker and tried the 60 grain charge...once, and never again.
Bunk

Mike

Sorry, but don't buy any Uberti firearm unless it has been worked by some who knows how to fix Uberties production problems. I wont .
They are wall hangers until fixed. :)
Buffalochip

pistol1911

Mine will be a wall hanger. I have others to bang away with. I don't play cowboy but still shoot NRA Bullseye.

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