Gun policy at convention

bear tooth billy · February 24, 2016, 07:29:27 PM

You are welcome to wear your gun(s) at the convention. As with any NCOWS event, safety is always our top
priority, all guns will be checked at the door to be sure they are unloaded, you cannot have any cartridges in
your belt (live, blanks, or dummy rounds). You can sell a long gun person to person, if you want to sell a
handgun you MUST go through a FFL, Len Abels, John Newton, and Dave Williams are all vendors who have
FFL licences and will be able help you. Thanks for your cooperation in making this a safe experience.

The committee

Irish Dave · February 25, 2016, 10:48:18 AM

Thanks for the info and the reminder.

Johnson Barr · February 25, 2016, 12:41:28 PM

How about the CHL and Open Carry laws in Iowa for us out-of-staters.

OklaTom · February 27, 2016, 06:17:28 PM

Better double check the laws regarding sale of long guns to or from out of state attendees. If they are not in a bordering state, there could be a problem there. If you have to guess, it is best to go through an FFL. I will be there, and have FFL in hand, so if someone from Texas needs a transfer, I will be there to help out if needed for shipping purposes.

I also question the right to carry laws in Iowa. Don't know for sure, but would like some info regarding open/conceal carry of live weapons.

bear tooth billy · February 28, 2016, 07:49:24 AM

We have permission to carry unloaded guns on the hotel grounds, I would DEFINETLY not leave the grounds
with an open carry. As far as loaded, conceal carry, Iowa has a reciprocal agreement with many states, BUT
I don't feel it's up to myself, our committee, or NCOWS to advise anyone on the current law, I would hate to see
someone get the wrong advise. When I took a course we were told it is up to the person to know the law before
they travel. I'm sure, it will be easy to find out, but here again I feel it should be up to the individual.

BTB non lawyer

OklaTom · February 28, 2016, 09:55:49 AM

Wise call, Billy. See these websites for concealed carry reciprocity

https://iowaconcealed.com/reciprocity/

http://www.stateoftexaschl.com/chl-faqs/reciprocity/

Dustin · February 28, 2016, 09:37:21 PM

I personally called the Iowa State Police and verified reciprocacy for Indiana permits.

rbertalotto · February 29, 2016, 04:11:34 AM

To sell a long gun without an FFL at the receiving end, the buyer and the seller must live in the same state where the convention is being held.
You can not transfer ANY firearm over a state line without involving an FFL to do a NIC check. This is federal law. State law might be even more onerous.

Montana Slim · February 29, 2016, 04:07:57 PM

Quote from: rbertalotto on February 29, 2016, 04:11:34 AM
To sell a long gun without an FFL at the receiving end, the buyer and the seller must live in the same state where the convention is being held.
You can not transfer ANY firearm over a state line without involving an FFL to do a NIC check. This is federal law. State law might be even more onerous.

"Joke" mode with this posting???

OklaTom · February 29, 2016, 04:39:53 PM

Quote from: Montana Slim on February 29, 2016, 04:07:57 PM
"Joke" mode with this posting???

This is actually true, with the exception of black powder firearms with percussion or flint locks, and antiques prior to manufactured prior to 1898. I emphasize manufactured because many firearms were designed and originally released in the 1890s that were still in production up until a decade or two into the 20th Century. For instance, the Model 1892 Colt revolver is an antique if made prior to 1898, but those made and used by the military in 1901 and 1903 require a minimum of a C&R license. Still, some states have even stricter laws, even regarding cap and ball pistols.

It is not lawful to sell any gun at the Iowa Convention if seller and buyer are not both residents of IA. If one is not, it must be handled through a FFL, and shipped to the buyer's state of residence. Strictly speaking, that is...

rbertalotto · February 29, 2016, 05:24:53 PM

Quoteand shipped to the buyer's state of residence. Strictly speaking, that is...

Well,..... A long gun can be bought by an out of state resident if the sale is handled through a FFL in the state of purchase and a NIC check is performed. The buyer can then take possession of the long gun and transport it home. As long as all laws of the buyers home state are followed.

A handgun MUST be transferred to an FFL in the buyers home state......And then transfered to the buyer through the FFL with NICS checks and other state rules and regulations.

OklaTom · February 29, 2016, 07:50:27 PM

Quote from: rbertalotto on February 29, 2016, 05:24:53 PM
Well,..... A long gun can be bought by an out of state resident if the sale is handled through a FFL in the state of purchase and a NIC check is performed. The buyer can then take possession of the long gun and transport it home. As long as all laws of the buyers home state are followed.

A handgun MUST be transferred to an FFL in the buyers home state......And then transfered to the buyer through the FFL with NICS checks and other state rules and regulations.

Long gun non-antique can be transferred only to a resident of a bordering state. And both of those states have to be in accord on that.

rbertalotto · March 01, 2016, 06:30:49 AM

QuoteLong gun non-antique can be transferred only to a resident of a bordering state. And both of those states have to be in accord on that.

Is this an Iowa law ? This is not a federal requirement.......

OklaTom · March 01, 2016, 04:43:15 PM

Quote from: rbertalotto on March 01, 2016, 06:30:49 AM
Is this an Iowa law ? This is not a federal requirement.......

Check your blue book for state laws.