CVA Remington New Army Conversion Cylinder

[Gustav Ritter]

Hello,
I have a CVA/Armi San Marco 1858 Remington Army from the early 1990s that I would like to convert to fire .45 Colt cartridges.  My question is, which conversion cylinder should I buy, an Unberti or a Pietta?  I would like to use a Taylor's/R&D cylinder.  I've done some searching online and it looks like a Uberti cylinder will work, but I am wondering if anyone has any experience converting a CVA Remington revolver. 

Thanks,

Gustav Ritter

[Major 2]

I believe if you buy it (Cyl) from the Girls @ Taylor they have their guy fit it.

I know if you buy the Gun & cylinder they will fit free, course on your gun there might be a charge...

[Professor Marvel]

My Dear Gustav -
Greetings My Good Gustav

ASM is known to have developed alternative dimensions for their Remingtons.
For example, on a brass ASM Remmy I have , the cylinder dimensions are larger than my pietta
and my pietta conversion cylinder is too long  to fit so I can't check other relationships...

here are some archived measurements for your entertainment, I hope they help
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Date code:
Pietta CI
Uberti CN

Cylinder length:
Pietta 2.017"
Uberti 2.000"
ASM:  2.014

Cylinder diameter:
Pietta 1.593"
Uberti 1.601"
ASM: 1.636

Cylinder pin hole:
Pietta 0.276"
Uberti 0.276"
ASM: .275 - .276

Cylinder chamber diameter:
Pietta 0.446"
Uberti 0.449"
ASM: 0.445

Cylinder bolt width:
Pietta 0.156"
Uberti 0.160"
ASM: 0.135

Opposite chamber face to face ID:
Pietta 0.548"
Uberti 0.549"
ASM: 0.550

Opposite chamber face to face OD:
Pietta 1.440"
Uberti 1.449"
ASM: 1.438
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Cylinder length:
Pietta C&B 2.017"
Uberti C&B 2.000"
Pietta conversion cylinder 2.014"
Uberti conversion cylinder 2.000"

Cylinder diameter:
Pietta C&B 1.593"
Uberti C&B 1.601"
Pietta conversion cylinder 1.624"
Uberti conversion cylinder 1.624"

Cylinder pin hole:
Pietta C&B 0.276"
Uberti C&B 0.276"
Pietta conversion cylinder 0.2785"
Uberti conversion cylinder 0.278"

Cylinder chamber diameter:
Pietta C&B 0.446"
Uberti C&B 0.449"
Pietta conversion cylinder 0.4525"
Uberti conversion cylinder 0.453"

Cylinder bolt width:
Pietta C&B 0.156"
Uberti C&B 0.160"
Pietta conversion cylinder 0.160"
Uberti conversion cylinder 0.158"

Opposite chamber face to face ID:
Pietta C&B 0.548"
Uberti C&B 0.549"
Pietta conversion cylinder 0.546"
Uberti conversion cylinder 0.541"

Opposite chamber face to face OD:
Pietta C&B 1.440"
Uberti C&B 1.449"
Pietta conversion cylinder 1.451"
Uberti conversion cylinder 1.448"

this *may* be ( as my lovely spousal unit is inclined to say) "too much information" ...
but I hope it helps
yhs
prof marvel

[Hoof Hearted]

Gustav

I always use the Pietta and then turn the OAL length to fit. After that measure the bolt width and adjust the off side to a dimension a couple thou smaller than the narrowest bolt notch in the cylinder. If you run into issues just give me a shout!

Regards, HH

[Gustav Ritter]

Guten Abend,

Thank you all for the information.  I measured the cylinder on my Remington (date code BA) and it came out to 2".  The Uberti cylinder should work fine.  I'm looking forward to shooting this gun again, without cleaning up black powder gunk.  The gun has never actually hand any lead through it.  I only used it for Civil War reenacting in the 1990s.  I went to CVA's website just now and it's a shame they don't sell any traditional black powder guns anymore, I always liked their products, and they had a reputation for quality.  The CVA Hawken is a rifle I've wanted for a long time. 

Gustav

[Lord Eoin MacKenzie]

Sir, The Traditions 1858 I have is Pietta.

[Lord Eoin MacKenzie]

I would like to find the diameters for the ,36 caliber cylinders.    I am getting a bare ( no barrel ) frame and since I have to get a barrel and cylinder,  i am thinking  to make it a 36 cal.  will 36 parts work in a 44 frame?

[Professor Marvel]

Greetings My Good LordMacK

It may depend upon the frame manufacturor and what year.
I know that the Piettas I have had (made after ~ 2005 or so) used one frame for both calibers, and would take both .36 and .44 cylinders .

I think I may still have a Pietta .36 cylinder soaking in kroil somewhere if you are interested...
yhs
prof marvel