USFA Walker value

Started by hatman, December 06, 2015, 07:06:34 PM

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Cruizer Bill

Thanks for the welcome!  I showed the manual to my wife, who has some experience with publishing.  Se says the manual is VERY amateurish! 
I am busy taking more pictures and scanning more of the manual.  More to come, stay tuned, don't touch that dial......!! 8)


Coffinmaker

Years back, and even more recently, there were some unscrupulous snake oil sales folks, defarbing Italian guns and passing them to
unsuspecting buyers as "originals."  Some were well enough done, some folks who should have known better, fell into the trap.
Later, closer inspection proved them to be forgeries.  Shootable, but forgeries none the less.  Could be your FIL was caught up in
the Gun Forgery tom foolery.  Wouldn't be the first, Won't be the last.
A lot to be said for a nice shootable forgery.

Coffinmaker

Capt. John Fitzgerald

Cruizer Bill,
To echo Yahoody, welcome our our forum and thank you for the additional information that you have added to this topic.  Hope to see more of you here!
CJF
You can't change the wind, but you can always change your sails.











Cruizer Bill

This is what I usually do....


LonesomePigeon

 Ormsby was the guy who made the original engraving for the cylinder scene on original Colt's of the 19th century. Almost all replicas have this scene stamped on the cylinder but they leave out or subsitute the word "COLT'S".

The lettering on this Dragoon's cylinder reminds me of some Armi San Marco revolvers I have seen but that is not conclusive proof it isn't a USFA revolver since USFA revolvers were actually made from both Armi San Marco and Uberti parts, with final fit and finish done by USFA.

The serial numbers on this Dragoon do not look like any Armi San Marco or Uberti that I have seen but they do look like the one USFA I have seen. That's not much to go on. My personal opinion is that this Dragoon could be a USFA. If so, it is probably one assembled from unfinished parts after they stopped selling percussion revolvers, not one that was given a special antiqued finish.

This is just my opinion and I am certainly not an expert.

yahoody

I know nothing about BP guns.  But the serial number stamping on this last one sure does look like later USFA SAA guns I own.
"time leaves tombstones or dry bones"  SASS #2903

Coffinmaker

I'm no true expert (ex = has been, spert = drip under pressure  ::) ).  However, the drawings included in the "USFA" book were lifted from
Uberti explode view drawings, right down to calling out the item numbers for the parts.

At this point, without a tear-down and detailed inspection under magnification, it's all just a WAG (Military acronym for Wild Ass Guess).
My only hard thought (oh the pain) is, it's not a USFA built gun.  ASM, Uberti, "other" but not USFA.

Coffinmaker


LonesomePigeon

This one looks a lot less "antiqued" than the one the original poster posted. Is the serial number font the same on both?

Cruizer Bill

Let's attack this from the manual standpoint.  Does anyone have an owner's manual from US Patent Firearms Manufacturing Company or USFA?  Especially for a black powder revolver but any manual at all?  Ever seen a real Owner's Manual for a USFA gun? ::)

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