What do do with this Pietta 1860? And the story gets worse...

[Cowtown]

Howdy,

I took apart my brand new Pietta 1860 Army for inspection and cleaning. What I found was not good.

On the frame there is a very thin spot where the trigger screw fits.
http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh91/coloradoblackbear/Pietta3.jpg
http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh91/coloradoblackbear/Pietta1.jpg

And under the hammer is this mess. Looks like casting/forging residue or slag? Will not scrape out.
http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh91/coloradoblackbear/Pietta2.jpg

What do you all recommend? I got this at Cabelas. Try and return it as defective or contact Pietta? I'm sure not going to shoot this one like this.

[Thumb Buster]

IMO back to Cabela's.    The slag in the hammer channel can be cleaned out if necessary (I've had to bob a protruding arbor) but either the hand channel was cut too wide or the trigger screw hole was off or both.  Pack it up and take it back.

[Coffinmaker]

I have to admit being amazed.  All the Pietta I have worked on, never seen one that sloppy.  I'd suggest making copies of your pictures,
packing it back in the box and back it goes. 
Contacting Pietta is a waist of your time.  Pietta will only refer you back to the retailer or importer.  In the past, Caballas has been very good about returns for quality.
Your gun can be made serviceable.  You, however shouldn't have to do that.  It should come to you basically serviceable.  Again,
BACK TO CABELLAS!!

Coffinmaker

[Cowtown]

Back to Cabelas it will be.

I bought two of these at the same time. I'll break down the other one tomorrow and hopefully find a much higher quality firearm.

At this point I'm keeping my fingers crossed.

[Hoof Hearted]

Cowtown

Did you go to the store or have it shipped?

HH

[Fingers McGee]

Definitely return it. 

[Cowtown]

I'll  go to Cabelas Saturday. I'm sure it will be an interesting conversation.

[Cowtown]

Part 2:

Same exact problem with my other Pietta 1860 purchased at the same time. Same screw hole wall thinness... almost eggshell fragile and no metal left.

http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh91/coloradoblackbear/Pietta4.jpg

Now BOTH guns are going back. Glad I pulled 'em apart before I shot 'em or sent 'em off for any tuning!

Not a happy cowboy right now.

[45 Dragoon]

If yer gonna send um off for tunin anyway, get an Uberti and send it on!!!    

Mike
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[Cowtown]

And the story gets worse...

My brand new Pietta 1851 (Cabelas again) has the same problem, not as bad, but very close.

http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh91/coloradoblackbear/Pietta%201851%20a.jpg

And
http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh91/coloradoblackbear/Pietta%201851.jpg

I am hoping my Pietta 1858s don't have any problems... different design, I know. but the QC is certainly lacking something terrible...

[45 Dragoon]

Dragoons are nice !


Mike
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[Hoof Hearted]

Cowtown

That hole is probably not in the "wrong" place. Pietta has made some changes to their trigger now and then and where that hole is located changes where the face of the trigger sits in the trigger guard. It actually coming through the channel for the hand also shouldn't be an issue since the hand and the spring never touch that area in their cycle.

I see a lot of these revolvers and would not worry too much about that.

Minor deburring of the insides is always a good idea no matter the brand. If these pistols were subjected to visual inspection rather than function tested the price would be a lot higher.

Regards HH

[Cowtown]

Is it safe to say that as the Ubertis are priced higher they have a better QC regimen then?

[Thomas (Tom) Horn aka James Hicks]

I have to agree with HH... Uberti or Pietta doesn't matter... the inside of the frame where all of the machine cuts are made... you will have a lot of burrs and other. The Hand Channels and the Barrel Channel is usually the worst (Hammer Channel where the Arbor is staked).... ifn you want the revolver to function smoothly.... work long and hard on the inside of the frame.

[Cowtown]

It is not burrs/hammer channel slag that has me most concerned. What I am concerned with is the metal on the trigger screw hole that is not there. Might look like a burr, but what you are seeing is the very thin remaining metal on the thread wall where the trigger screw sits...almost none left on the two 1860 models. I am afraid that if I poke it with a toothpick it will flake off and leave just 1/2 a hole in which to thread in the trigger screw. The threads themselves are disintegrating due to the thinness of the metal in that location. Eventually I can see the trigger itself becoming cockeyed or angled in place and not effectively and reliably work.

[Hoof Hearted]

It is not burrs/hammer channel slag that has me most concerned. What I am concerned with is the metal on the trigger screw hole that is not there. Might look like a burr, but what you are seeing is the very thin remaining metal on the thread wall where the trigger screw sits...almost none left on the two 1860 models. I am afraid that if I poke it with a toothpick it will flake off and leave just 1/2 a hole in which to thread in the trigger screw. The threads themselves are disintegrating due to the thinness of the metal in that location. Eventually I can see the trigger itself becoming cockeyed or angled in place and not effectively and reliably work.

There is no side thrust on this screw to speak of.  The screw is held in place at both ends. All the threads really do is hold the screw tight so it will not turn.

[Cowtown]

Interesting.

What is the worse that could happen? The screw eventually backing out or falling out?

Can this frame be repaired or is there a fix for this?

I am still going to try and get Cabelas to take these back. Might see if the replacements are better built, that is if they will exchange them.

[Lefty Dude]

Which ever you do, Pietta's or Uberti's, a Diamond file set will be your best friend.

[Major 2]

Interesting.

What is the worse that could happen? The screw eventually backing out or falling out?

Can this frame be repaired or is there a fix for this?

I am still going to try and get Cabelas to take these back. Might see if the replacements are better built, that is if they will exchange them.

well Sir, there is that.... but in IMHO the worst that could happen? 

is this would naw at you... stick in the back of your mind , give you doubts and and just plain annoy you...

send them back ... Cabela's has had a no questions asked policy

[Hoof Hearted]

well Sir, there is that.... but in IMHO the worst that could happen? 

is this would naw at you... stick in the back of your mind , give you doubts and and just plain annoy you...

send them back ... Cabela's has had a no questions asked policy

I bet the next pair look the same...................just sayin...........
This is not a case of Luigi drilled a hole in the wrong place with his Black and Decker cause it was 4:45 on a Friday.........
Do y'all really think Cowtown can take his screwdriver set to the gun counter and disassemble all the Pietta's they have?

Cowtown what is the date code on the frame?
Maybe if you look through their stock you can find a pair that are from a different date code.

The last couple I have had here had the short triggers I think they were CF (2011)