Modified THUER® with loading tools..............ooooh.............

[45 Dragoon]

Daaaang .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  . I'll have a pair  , uh  .  .  . I mean two!!! .. .. . .  ..sammiches I mean!  Yeah,   sammiches .  .  .  .  .  ..


Mike
Mc Goo .  . .
I mean 
Never mind.
Follow her  .  .  .  .  ..

[Dances With Coyotes]

Very nice.....Very nice.

[Major 2]

44 SPECIAL very SPECIAL

[Crow Choker]

Very Nice Hoof, Very Nice!!! Ifin' you lived back in the 1860's and Mr Sam Colt hadn't quit breathing at a early age, I'm positive he'd put you ahead of the class and hire you. Does your Thuer loading die setup have any provisions for loading a conical style bullet? Just curious. I think the cap n' ball style revolvers and the conversion's are light years ahead of any revolver/autoloader in looks/style produced after the 1873 Colt Army came along. There are some nice ones that come to mind (ie 1911 Colt, Colt Python, Ruger GP100, S&W N/K frame's), but thee Ol' black powder burnin', flame shootin', smoke producin', boomin' shootin' irons from the 1847-1872 era whether they be loose powder, cap, and ball or cartridge still rule the roost IMO. Love shootin em'!!!!

[Coffinmaker]

Ha Ha Ho Ho He He ................
Mike .... Goonsgunworks ...... abbreviated and bastardized = McGoon when poking ones finger in ones eye ...........  Just had to pull Mike's chain.
Bet a buck one could load those rounds with 45 ACP dies.  Betcha betcha.  run inna Dillon wid a 45 ACP shell plate too .... Betcha Betcha.

Had I that Sammich Maker, I'd never make it to da range, no sireee.

Seeing what Gary is making, causes me to wish (sometimes) I hadn't sold off my machines when I retired.  Some really nifty ideas to play with.

I have to agree with Crow Choker.  The COLT Cap Guns were/are far superior in appearance to anything subsequent.  Well, maybe excepting the Python with a 4" Barrel.  I personally think the 1861 with a 1st Model Richards conversion (Colt never did it) is pure sex in steel.  The most gorgeous gun on the planet.  A shame they (1861s were done by ASM) were so poorly made in our age.

I'm currently planning  a Gated Cartridge conversion with Ejector Rods on a pair of Pietta 1860s.  Plan to cut the barrel to the Ejector Assembly.  Never bet a barrel too SHORT!!  I just love Snubbies and Conversions.

Mike,  I am NOT A FAN of Trailboss.  I know a lot of folks like it, but I have a personal preference for Tightgroup.  I do still shoot a bunch of smokeless, in my weaker moments and just have better results with Tightgroup.  Understanding, I shoot nothing but Cowboy 45 Special cases, or my own 45 Squirt (Schofield case cut to 45 ACP length).  With reduced powder charge the smaller case volume really lends itself
to Tightgroup.  Nice manly BANG, and great accuracy.  It'd be nice if Walt Kirst would make some 45 ACP cylinders.  I know why he doesn't but .............

Mike

[Hoof Hearted]

Very Nice Hoof, Very Nice!!! Ifin' you lived back in the 1860's and Mr Sam Colt hadn't quit breathing at a early age, I'm positive he'd put you ahead of the class and hire you. Does your Thuer loading die setup have any provisions for loading a conical style bullet? Just curious. I think the cap n' ball style revolvers and the conversion's are light years ahead of any revolver/autoloader in looks/style produced after the 1873 Colt Army came along. There are some nice ones that come to mind (ie 1911 Colt, Colt Python, Ruger GP100, S&W N/K frame's), but thee Ol' black powder burnin', flame shootin', smoke producin', boomin' shootin' irons from the 1847-1872 era whether they be loose powder, cap, and ball or cartridge still rule the roost IMO. Love shootin em'!!!!

Crow,
I have been thinkin' and tinkerin' the conical situation and the three moulds (Italian) I have are all undersized. The OAL is limited and I really don't think a production item for conicals would be possible. That being said I can make anything that you want in the way of a bullet seating setup for this item, I would need you to mail me some of your conicals..........

[rbertalotto]

Absolutly Fantastic!

A few ??...

Why rimless cases?
How does the Primer seat? Is there a different 'loading ring"?
Do you use the existing C&B cylinder with the cap area turned down?
When will you start offering this conversion? And on what make, model, caliber guns?

Thanks

[Hoof Hearted]

Absolutly Fantastic!

A few ??...

Why rimless cases?
How does the Primer seat? Is there a different 'loading ring"?
Do you use the existing C&B cylinder with the cap area turned down?
When will you start offering this conversion? And on what make, model, caliber guns?

Thanks

Howdy Roy!

In order..........

The rimless case is necessary due to the OD of the ring. There is no way to bore a hole larger than a 45 Colt rim w/o making a channel instead of a hole. This also creates a unique situation regarding the BATF definition of a firearm:
(16) The term ''antique firearm'' means— (A) any firearm (including any firearm with a matchlock, flintlock, percussion cap, or similar type of ignition system) manufactured in or before 1898; or (B) any replica of any firearm described in subparagraph (A) if such replica— (i) is not designed or redesigned for using rimfire or conventional centerfire fixed ammunition, or (ii) uses rimfire or conventional centerfire fixed ammunition which is no longer manufactured in the United States and which is not readily available in the ordinary channels of commercial trade

Part way down the posted pictures I show a picture of the "die" that seats the primer. In the ring there is a spring loaded primer seater which has a seat in the post which holds the primer. You just insert the die in the case, a primer in the seat and then seat the primer by pulling the rammer. All of these operations can be done in hand or in a wooden reloading stand on the bench.

An original 36 caliber cylinder can be turned down for use and chambered for the cartridge in a Navy revolver with the express understanding that it is for Black Powder only. A 44, Army cylinder loses too much ratchet to index properly with a single stage hand.

This is a Colts type conversion so any Navy or Army and the available calibers in the rimless design are 38 Colt/Long Colt/Special with a lined barrel and a .360 ball, 41 Colt (or blown out 38 Special) with a .380 ball, 45 Colt with a .454 ball...........all rimless cases.

I have them available right now! But I have not procured the loading tool parts so if someone wants one they will get "prototype" handmade loading tools.

Yours, HH

[rbertalotto]

Well...........I couldn't resist. I just ordered up a new 1851 Colt from Old South Firearms.....on sale for $229 right now. I usually order from Cabelas, but they now have a store in my state and this adds 6.25% to the cost. And their sale price at Cabelas is $249 for the same revolver.

In one way or the other it will be converted to a modified Thuer...........Love this design...very unique!