Mica on loaded bp shot shells to aid extraction?

Started by Dick Dastardly, September 25, 2015, 04:48:13 PM

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Dick Dastardly

Ho the camp,

I've been shooting a 16ga SxS for SASS matches for some time.  100%  Holy Black, of course.

My question is this. . . My Stevens 311 just doesn't want to give up it's empty hulls.  I have to pull them out.  So, I'm going to try some Ballistic Produces Mica Hull Lube on the loaded ammo . . . . http://www.ballisticproducts.com/Mica-Wad-Slick-8-oz-jar/productinfo/MICA/

I'm hoping that this will allow my empty shells to shuck out of my lil 311 without a family fight. . .

Any remarks?

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Coffinmaker

Monsieur Dastardly,

Good thing I shoot a Double.  Left Barrel, second answer.  I don't know if you've already tried this but .............. I suggest you wrap a 16Ga Brass Brush with 0000 steel wool and a little oil.  Chuck it up in drill motor (I prefer cordless) on a short section of cleaning rod and
run it back and fourth in the chambers.  Doesn't really remove any metal but it does make the chambers nice 'n' smooooooth and
shiny.  Had to do this when I switched to all brass 12Ga hulls.  Pop right out.

I also suggest a 16Ga brass brush with an adaptor on a 4" pistol cleaning rod.  Wrap the brush with a cloth patch and spritz the patch
with a little Balllistol and swab out the chambers between stages.  Change the patch every other stage.

Coffinmaker (Shameless Plugger of the DDD "TOWER OF POWER).  ;D

PS:  And try the Mica

Cuts Crooked

I'm guessing the DD knows about polishing the chambers. But some shotties are jist stubborn! My old Crescent SxS will shuck old Winchester AAs great! Nothing else though! Any other brand and it needs manual assistance. I've taken to giving my shells a wipe with ballistol before I put em in my carrier, if I'm using anything other than AAs......It werks fer me.
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Dick Dastardly

Well, the mica treatment didn't hurt a thing.  Didn't help either.  So, I'm going to give the chamber polish another go.  That and some Ballistol on my hulls.  That lil 16ga sure likes to keep the empties. . .

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Coffinmaker

What I forgot to mention .............. OOPS Sorry.

That Break Cylinder Hone is designed and intended to clean out and "hone" a break cylinder.  It removes metal.  It can remove a LOT of
metal really quick.  It also works like a Cylinder Hone for piston rings (automotive).  It is suppose to leave behind a tiny crosshatch pattern of tiny scratches.  Which it does.  Then the break cylinder piston can wear into the walls of the cylinder and form a nice tight seal.

Most folks who have used one on a shotgun chamber wind up with an oversize chamber.  Bad Joss.  Cannot recommend it.  Recommendation is for the 0000 steel wool.

Coffinmaker

Blair

I very much agree with this statement.

I have an old 1889 Remington shotgun, made in Belgium probably in about 1900 to 1910 with nitro proof markings. Needed quite a bit of repair work done, mostly to the stock wrist and forearm. I made sure both locks worked correctly and functioned safely from the full cock position.
I noticed that all the modern shot shells I used, paper or plastic, even with BP had to have the shell rims resized if I wanted to use them in another shotgun.
I then acquired a bunch of balloon head Winchester all brass cases form around 1900. Loaded them up with BP and tried them out.
I found one case that had split from the large rifle primer pocket up to about half way to the mouth of the brass case.
I realized at that point the chambers had been reamed out with something like the "Cylinder Hone" or Valve Grinding Compound. I don't know which.
But, I have retired the shotgun because of it.
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Lefty Dude

Most shooter do not know that a Shotgun chamber has a slight taper. Larger at the breach end by a few thousands. If you use a Break-Hone you actually increase the chamber size and disturb the taper of the chamber.
I polish with a 3M pad mounted on a 410" nylon brush using Iosso bore cleaner or JB bore paste.

john boy

QuoteThat Break Cylinder Hone is designed and intended to clean out and "hone" a break cylinder.  It removes metal.  It can remove a LOT of metal really quick
CM -pure fact.  The several times I used one:
* remove extractors
* lightly hone the chamber to the depth just past the depth of the hull base. Don't do a rotor rooter job of the whole chamber
* Coat a 12ga bore swab with Flitz
* Polish the complete chamber
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Talk about thread drift ;D

The last post was "Over-The-Moon" :D :D

Yeah! I saw it!  When I first saw it, there was just an orange smudge in the sky.  (7:30 pm here on the Wet Coast)  After a while it looked like a ripe peach ;)
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Coffinmaker

Hey!!  Careful there!!  Some of us happen to really like Peaches.  You wouldn't believe how bad a cylinder hone can tear em up.  Not
even good for Pie after you do that.  No siree bob ...... just peel em and eat em.  How did Bob get into this thread anyway!!

I really get over the Moon about really good Peaches.  'Specially Chambersburg Peaches.  Some kind of YUM!!  You Betcha.
Where were we??  Oh ..... Yea ....... I Poo Poo'd the Break Cylinder Hone Idea.  Still do.  Entirely too easy to screw up and turn
a Shotgun into a wall decoration.

Coffinmaker

Dick Dastardly

Avid Ballistician in Holy Black
Riverboat Gambler and Wild Side Rambler
Gunfighter Ordinar
Purveyor of Big Lube supplies

Sir Charles deMouton-Black

NCOWS #1154, SCORRS, STORM, BROW, 1860 Henry, Dirty Rat 502, CHINOOK COUNTRY
THE SUBLYME & HOLY ORDER OF THE SOOT (SHOTS)
Those who are no longer ignorant of History may relive it,
without the Blood, Sweat, and Tears.
With apologies to George Santayana & W. S. Churchill

"As Mark Twain once put it, "History doesn't repeat itself, but it does rhyme."

Noz

Quote from: Coffinmaker on September 28, 2015, 04:43:30 PM
Hey!!  Careful there!!  Some of us happen to really like Peaches.  You wouldn't believe how bad a cylinder hone can tear em up.  Not
even good for Pie after you do that.  No siree bob ...... just peel em and eat em.  How did Bob get into this thread anyway!!

I really get over the Moon about really good Peaches.  'Specially Chambersburg Peaches.  Some kind of YUM!!  You Betcha.
Where were we??  Oh ..... Yea ....... I Poo Poo'd the Break Cylinder Hone Idea.  Still do.  Entirely too easy to screw up and turn
a Shotgun into a wall decoration.

Coffinmaker

BELLA GEORGIAs

Sir Charles deMouton-Black

I believe the moon eclipse we saw is called a Blood Moon.

My apologies to Peaches ;)
NCOWS #1154, SCORRS, STORM, BROW, 1860 Henry, Dirty Rat 502, CHINOOK COUNTRY
THE SUBLYME & HOLY ORDER OF THE SOOT (SHOTS)
Those who are no longer ignorant of History may relive it,
without the Blood, Sweat, and Tears.
With apologies to George Santayana & W. S. Churchill

"As Mark Twain once put it, "History doesn't repeat itself, but it does rhyme."

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