Cimarron Crossfire trail '76?

Started by yahoody, September 03, 2015, 01:07:51 AM

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yahoody

Anyone else here shooting one in 45-60.  Or a NWM Carbine in 45-60.   Your/any impressions you'd care to share would be appreciated!
"time leaves tombstones or dry bones"  SASS #2903

Mike

I have a 45-60 carbine which i had a few issues with when new, first the sights were rubbish out of the box (mine and a friends they came in the same shipment from Uberti).
Both guns shot very high, i have  thrown both sight of mine away and have a tang and a very high front sight, the longest lyman make on the front.
could not get it to shoot black powder at all and it took a lot of trail loads to find one it liked, i now use 4759 with a 298 grain buy weight head.
I did trim my case to fit the crimp grove on the head.
I dont shoot it much but should, prefer my 44 and 38 WCF.
Buffalochip

Barbarossa

I have one in 45/60 that I shot this buck with last season.I used an a bullet cast from an original mould lubed with spg and loaded unsized with 60grs of ffg.One shot kill from 80yards


yahoody

Nice!  Thanks for the picture and load info :)
"time leaves tombstones or dry bones"  SASS #2903

Mike

I find it interesting that you used a unsized projectile, at the weekend a fried who has a 1885  made by Uberti which previously would not shoot black powder loads with sized bullets tried them unsized and they shot very well. With nito loads the sized projectiles worked fine with good groups.
Gues the BP was not punching the lead projectile up enough to engage the rifling. Will try my 76 with unsized LFP.
Great deer.
Buffalochip

King Medallion

That's looks to be a real bruiser of a buck, nice shooting.
King Medallion
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Grapeshot

Quote from: yahoody on September 03, 2015, 01:07:51 AM
Anyone else here shooting one in 45-60.  Or a NWM Carbine in 45-60.   Your/any impressions you'd care to share would be appreciated!

I have one of the Uberti CFT'76's.  I had Chaparral 76 for 6 years and sold it to a friend who was drooling over it and proceeded to by the Uberti.  I find it to be accurate and not to punishing when shooting 60 grains by volume of 2Fg Goex, Pyrodex, or Pinnacle.  777 on the other hand has to be reduced by 10 grains to keep from being beat to death.  That stuff is potent.  All of this is with a 350 grain cast RNFN from an RCBS mold.

I also shoot a reduced load when shooting a .458inch, 405 grain slug when I want terminal performance.  Regardless, a 350 works well for all applications.

I also use Trail Boss or Unique with excellent results
Listen!  Do you hear that?  The roar of Cannons and the screams of the dying.  Ahh!  Music to my ears.

Jake C

How is accuracy with the 405 grain bullet, if I may ask? I'd love a .45-60 Centennial Rifle, but I can't find soft 350 grain bullets anywhere, it seems.
Win with ability, not with numbers.- Alexander Suvorov, Russian Field Marshal, 1729-1800

Grapeshot

Quote from: Jake C on October 15, 2015, 03:58:01 PM
How is accuracy with the 405 grain bullet, if I may ask? I'd love a .45-60 Centennial Rifle, but I can't find soft 350 grain bullets anywhere, it seems.

First, the twist rate has to be between 1 turn in 18 inches to 1 turn in 22 inches to stabilize the .405 grain bullet.  This can be any of the plain base or hollow base projectiles.

As for soft cast 300 or 350 grain bullets; I do believe that is going to be a cast them yourself proposition.  I could be wrong, but, like you I haven't seen any one advertise soft cast .45 rifle bullets.  If some one out there does, I hope that they respond to this post and let us know where to order them.

Accuracy with the 405 grain bullets in my gun was good.  I kept them on an 11 inch Aluminum Skillet at 100 yards.  As far as I was concerned at the time, that was good enough for harvesting deer in PA.
Listen!  Do you hear that?  The roar of Cannons and the screams of the dying.  Ahh!  Music to my ears.

Jake C

Fair enough, thank you for the answer.
Win with ability, not with numbers.- Alexander Suvorov, Russian Field Marshal, 1729-1800

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