KVC gambler shoot

[Trap]

The day for the main match of the gambler shoot has been moved back to sun the 6th due to a couple of conflicts. You can still come for the entire weekend. remember to dress as an old west gambler, and bring your pocket pistol!   jt

[Johnson Barr]

Sunday the 6th of what; backshooter!

[Trap]

 

   September !

[Wooly Dan]

Jeff and I will be there. Plan on coming down on Sun and being there just for the day.  Reminder Books likes cash for the enter fee which is $10 or $15 dollars your choice. I asked Books and he said we would start at 10am Books time with safety meeting before. Those of you that  like playing cards and your not a good shooter this is your shoot. I went out and purchased a new 73 just for this event. And yes it has a 3 1/2 inch barrel it was hard taking a saw to a new gun but that is what happen when you are a gamer, or is it Taylors got a boat load of new guns in?

[Books OToole]

There will be 10 stages.  Three pocket pistol, one main match pistol and one main match rifle.  Round counts respectively are:  15, 5 & 10.  For those of you who think my math is flawed; the remaining five stages will be various types of poker.

Dress code is old west (NCOWS): Gambler/Dude attire is not required but is certainly encouraged.  [NO extra credit this year.]

Books


PS:  On the Pocket Pistol stages there will be a one second per stage penalty for full sized pistols with short barrels.  However there will be a one second per stage bonus for single action revolvers.

[Windy City Joe]

I will not be able to attend the Gambler shoot on the 6th of Sept because of a conflict of commitments.

[Windy City Joe]

What is the reason for a one second per stage penalty for full sized pistols with short barrels? I don't remember us doing this in the past. 
Is this in the NCOWS Talley Book?

[Major 2]

Hmm that puzzle's me too

"On the Pocket Pistol stages there will be a one second per stage penalty for full sized pistols with short barrels.  However there will be a one second per stage bonus for single action revolvers. "

a Storekeeper or Sheriff with a 3 1/2" barrel  ( full size with short barrel  ) would be penalized ?

but given a bonus as it's a SAA  

[pony express]

M2, seems like with that combo you'd break even.

[Will Ketchum]

Perhaps the bonus for the single action pistols is due to the fact most true pocket pistols shot at our matches are double action, such as the S&W lemon squeezer, so someone shooting say a S&W Baby Russian, which is single action, would be at a disadvantage.

Will Ketchum

PS, I sure wish I could afford to attend. 

[Books OToole]

Perhaps the bonus for the single action pistols is due to the fact most true pocket pistols shot at our matches are double action, such as the S&W lemon squeezer, so someone shooting say a S&W Baby Russian, which is single action, would be at a disadvantage.

Will Ketchum

PS, I sure wish I could afford to attend. 

Exactly!

Books

[Windy City Joe]

As stated below:
"PS:  On the Pocket Pistol stages there will be a one second per stage penalty for full sized pistols with short barrels.  However there will be a one second per stage bonus for single action revolvers."

Major 2 asked if his Sheriff model with a 3 1/2" barrel  ( full size with short barrel  ) would be penalized? I have this same pistol.

Most pocket pistols can be shot double action or single action.

So, a double action full size frame pistol like a Welby with a short barrel would be penalized, and you would get a bonus for using a  large frame single action revolvers?

[Wooly Dan]

Hay guys Books response was a funy funy in response to me buying a new pistol. We are thinking way to much.

[Books OToole]

It is the opinion of the Match Director (Me), that full sized pistols that NCOWS says is a legal Pocket Pistol (which they are not) simply because it has a short barrel, have a distinct advantage over real pocket pistols.  Therefore a one second penalty will be assessed.

A large frame single action pistol would actually break even.  (A one second penalty would be assessed for being full sized and a one second bonus would be given for being single action.)

As this is a Novelty Match (Side Match) there is much more leeway in scoring etc.  Hell, one year the Gamber Match was won by a participant by stealing a bunch of chips from the bank.

This is supposed to be fun.

Books

[bear tooth billy]

Have fun guys, dream up new and interesting matches. When I put on a match,
I'll add a pocket pistol, and maybe a buffalo gun, and  not the usual 10-10-4.
I once shot a Lonesome Dove shoot, it was totally different, I believe the winner
hit 60% of the targets!.

                         BTB

[Books OToole]

If anybody is interested in attending, but does not have a pocket pistol, I will bring some spares.

Books

[John William McCandles]

Have fun guys, dream up new and interesting matches. When I put on a match,
I'll add a pocket pistol, and maybe a buffalo gun, and  not the usual 10-10-4.
I once shot a Lonesome Dove shoot, it was totally different, I believe the winner
hit 60% of the targets!.

                         BTB

Billy, could you elaborate on the Lonesome Dove match?

JW

[John Smith]

I'm confused, can anyone give me an example of the large frame short barrel "pocket pistol" both single and double action?

[River City John]

Avenging Angels popular now would be one.  Storekeeper's Model another, I suppose.




RCJ

[Will Ketchum]

A Colt Store Keeper Model, or sometimes referred to as a Sheriff's model or a Merwin Hulbert Pocket Army for the single action . For the double action, how about a S&W  Double Action 1st Model.   
There are numerous other examples of both.

Will Ketchum