*** Lots of New Photos Posted *** Spencer Carbine Serial #9004

oldfard · August 06, 2015, 12:56:47 PM

Hi I came across this src in bad condition. I finally made out the sn it is 9004 can you tell me anything about it?
Thanks so much. I love this forum

Two Flints · August 06, 2015, 02:21:57 PM

Any photos to share?

What does this mean "src"

??

Are you sure it's a carbine? Barrel length?

Two Flints

mehavey · August 06, 2015, 02:23:47 PM

Saddle Ring Carbine.... (?)

Two Flints · August 06, 2015, 02:28:44 PM

Oldfard gave me 9004 and listed it as a carbine . . . but 9005 is a Spencer rifle . . . Oldfard re-check the serial # . . . sometimes they are hard to read correctly.

Two Flints

Blair · August 06, 2015, 02:45:36 PM

Barrel length, and of course caliber of the barrel bore are important things to consider.
I think both Spencer as well as Burnside started with SS# 01 in the M1865's
My best,
Blair

treebeard · August 06, 2015, 04:22:13 PM

Another possibility is a rifle rebarreled or cut down to carbine length and saddle ring added. Think of all the mods to war
surplus done here in the US since the end of WW2.

Two Flints · August 06, 2015, 04:28:41 PM

I've asked the original poster to post photos of his Spencer or he could send them to me and I'll post them for him . . . but no reply as yet.

Two Flints

Jake C · August 06, 2015, 05:22:00 PM

I figured it was 'Spencer Repeating Carbine,' but that's just me.

Two Flints · August 06, 2015, 08:38:53 PM

Hello All,

I have been Emailing back and forth with OldFard, the OP, his Spencer Carbine? serial # is 9004. Waiting on more photos and will post them when I receive them.

Two Flints

oldfard · August 07, 2015, 08:19:43 AM

Hi fellows,

It's me trying to get you some information about Spencer. Will try to get some pictures to Two Fints and he can post them.

SN is 9004 real rusty had to go under rust to find it. BBL is marked real nice 9004. BBL is 20 inches long. Hang in there iI will get more info to you.

(Photos Posted by Two Flints)

Blair · August 07, 2015, 09:55:33 AM

oldfard,

I would say your Spencer Carbine is a Burnside contract of an M-1865.
I say this due to what appears to be a four line address on the top of the receiver.
I hope this helps.
My best,
Blair

oldfard · August 07, 2015, 01:08:55 PM

Thanks Blair. You guys are great

Blair · August 07, 2015, 01:22:13 PM

oldfard,

Glad to help!
Sorry to see the gun is in such poor shape.
How did you come by it?
Any history on where and how you may have come by it may help to make a good story, and offer a new life to an old relic?
My best,
Blair

oldfard · August 08, 2015, 09:12:09 AM

No history on the spencer. I live in Miami Ok and we have eleven tribes of Indians. Lots of history. will get more pictures soon.
Thanks again.

oldfard · August 18, 2015, 12:47:10 PM

Guys, Here are the photos of my "old Spencer".

(Photos Posted by Two Flints)

Old Fard

oldfard · August 20, 2015, 10:35:24 AM

If you buy a center fire converson do you have to use blackpower in the bullets? What is a good converson?
Thanks

Blair · August 20, 2015, 11:46:41 AM

oldfard,

This is just my opinion...
These arms contain the pressure of the fired ammo within the barrel/chamber area, which, in turn screws into the receive ring.
It is important to note that during the production life of these arms, there was only one powder (black powder) available as a propellant powder.
I would highly suggest that this is the only powder used in these older arms (pre-Smokeless powder development).
Another factor to consider is the overall condition of the firearm.
My best,
Blair

Blair · August 23, 2015, 02:23:16 PM

oldfard,

I have to tell you that I was ready to suggest you hang this "old girl" on the wall and forget shooting it.
However, after viewing the images of some of the internal parts and their condition, I am willing to reconsider that thought.
The muzzle end of the bore is kind of rough as it is now, Could it be cleaned up some?

Setting one of these up to shoot could be a very expensive proposition.
Just to be able to shoot it a couple of time may simply not be an option for you?
I have not kept up with the current cost, But, this is the place to find that out.
My best,
Blair

oldfard · September 11, 2015, 09:06:28 AM

I got the bbl and chamber cleaned up mostly chamber. Bought some starlite brass made from 50 70 for the 56 50 taylor spencer.
The thickness of the rim is too thick. This is original burnside rough spencer I am trying to load for. What can I do? Is there other kinds of brass?
Oldfard

Blair · September 11, 2015, 10:52:58 AM

oldfard,

The cut down 50-70 case rims can be a bit oversized for most of the original Spencer rim fire type cartridge cases. I am kind of surprised this was not done for you when you placed your order for 56-50 brass.
How many cases did you get?
My best,
Blair