87 question

Started by hhughh, July 19, 2015, 05:35:19 PM

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hhughh

If this has already been addressed I duly apologize. Looked at an 87 repro in a shop last week. The hammer spur looks tiny. Was there some reason or mechanical need for this?  Anyone know Browning's thoughts when designing?  Just curious.
Hugh

Pettifogger

If you lever the gun you will notice the hammer goes down inside the receiver.  Not enough room in there for a larger hammer.

hhughh

Thanks p'fogger. Didnt get to play with it enough to notice that.

Rolan_Kraps24084

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So, what are the other 86 questions?  ;D

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IMHO, the M1887 Winchester was NOT one of John Mose's better designs. He did it mainly because Winchester insisted on a lever action shotgun. (He wanted to sell them the design for the pump action that became the M1893/97.)  That small hammer spur can be a real hazard if you are trying to cock/decock the hammer. Just have to be careful and get a good grip. I have an original which I had the chamber long-throated so I can use 2-3/4" modern shells without creating excess pressure (use Low-Noise, Low-recoil ONLY).  I also have one that has the Coyote Caps two-shot mod. Frankly, I don't like either when only two shells are permitted. Might just as well load a sxs double, which I do mostly. If the SASS rules were modified to allow the magazine to be loaded full under the clock, and then get to levering, it would be worth it. Just MHO!
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Coffinmaker


Iffin you'd skip that complicated crank handle thingie, and switch to a nice Hammer Double, that little nubbiest thingie wouldn't matter hey hey hey  :D

Montana Slim

 The small nubbin hammer design was probably chosen to cut down on discharge of the shotgun if dropped with a loaded chamber while sitting on 1/2 cock. If you have a round in the tube with it on 1/2 cock, the easiest way to go to full is to slightly lever the action & close it. Ready to shoot in an instant & works well even while wearing gloves.

I use my 87 for hunting as much as for cowboy. More style points when dropping varmints & carries up to 7 rounds.
Good workout carrying it, too  :D With finer sights would make a good slug shooter too. The large bead only works for me out to 50 yds.

BTW, NCOWS allows stoking magazines (on the clock) or not, your choice.


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litl rooster

I have a Coyote Cap 87 also. Never shot it a lot and never thought of loading more than 2 rounds. I guess I never knew you could not.

Cowboy shooting I never loaded more than 2 in a 97. I loaded it up when I am shooting at wild dogs.

The triggers spurs on both models are not much.
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Baltimore Ed

WASA also allows stoking on the clock. Not any faster but a lot more fun. Also have a '87 but hardly ever use it, prefer a pump [Marlin or Winchester].
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