Question on Nipples

Noz · June 11, 2016, 06:08:01 AM

On my Colt clone, I drill a 1/8" hole in the hammer face about 3/16 deep. I place it near the top of the safety slot. I fill that hole with JB Weld and then drive a 1/8" brass rod into the hole. I cut it off a little long then peen it to be sure I cover any drilling inconsistencies. I then file it flush with the face of the hammer.

Lefty Dude · June 11, 2016, 11:03:11 AM

Quote from: Noz on June 11, 2016, 06:08:01 AM
On my Colt clone, I drill a 1/8" hole in the hammer face about 3/16 deep. I place it near the top of the safety slot. I fill that hole with JB Weld and then drive a 1/8" brass rod into the hole. I cut it off a little long then peen it to be sure I cover any drilling inconsistencies. I then file it flush with the face of the hammer.

And this is for, and does ? Further explanation required ?

Crow Choker · June 12, 2016, 08:05:08 AM

I originally had the desire to go the TRESO nipples due to their better design for igniting the blk powder. The spelling error was noted as Flint posted-guess it wasn't a fatal error as neither the Marshall or Cutts deleted my post or tossed me off the forum. J. Starbuck also 'needled' me about it-aw 'horsepukey'-aint'ta lost any sleep over da matter!!! The CAD designs and information posted by Mako and others proved their superior advantage. If any 'cap sucking' prevention is obtained from either design, so much the better, but as Coffinmaker posted any 100% of preventing it is probably "horsefeathers". Murphy's Law noted. When the Slix's came along as I previously penned, wasn't sure which way to go. Have been looking at various sellers of the Slix's and think I'll give them a try in my 1860 Colt and/or 2nd Model Dragoon. Don't see many Treso's available from sellers-does this say something? Good report Navy Six. Like the 'clean-up' report.
One thing I have noticed in some of the comments referring to Slix's is the possibility of the 'cones' being to long on certain models of revolvers, ie not fitting very well. This is from various comments I've read on other forums or reviews. Has anyone noticed this or had any problems of the nipples being to long or to short? Do the nipples fit the advertised model of gun they are designed for or does one have to play a 'buy and try' game with them. Will be installing on Uberti firearms. May down the road get a set for a Pietta '58 Remington if they work well in my Colts. Good ignition and no suckers to you all!!!! Choker of Crows!!

Noz · June 12, 2016, 10:46:33 AM

Quote from: Lefty Dude on June 11, 2016, 11:03:11 AM
And this is for, and does ? Further explanation required ?

Eliminates the safety slot and greatly reduces caps dropping into the action. Combined with one of the good aftermarket nipples and #10 Remingtons and you are essentially cap problem free.

Another comment. Caps rakes are a good thing as long as they are installed in the center of the groove milled in the hammer. If not properly installed they are worse than useless.

Coffinmaker · June 12, 2016, 11:29:42 AM

He's BAAAAACK!!!!!
Hokay. For the Esteemed Kroker of Chroes. IF one is shooting Pietta 51s, 52s, 61s or 60s, Slix for Pietta will fit and will work well. It
Would seem, in their indomitable wixdome, Pietta elected to make EVERYTHING on the basic '51 frame. This standard-ized ALL the
important dimensions throughout their line. ALL the barrels, cylinders, Grips, internal parts, hammers, screwdrivers, fit all the
different guns. Really makes it simple for Gunplumbers. Also makes it really really fun for kit bashers like me. I can mix and match
parts all day to create all manner of FRANKENPISTOLS that look and perform really awesome. I digress. SO:
If one is shooting Pietta, and use Pietta Slix, the outcome will be harmonious.

Other brands, makes, labels, such, may not be so ......... user friendly. I haven't messed with the "others." No need to. If it ain't broke,
don't fix it.

Now, since UBERTI tends to follow the actual dimensions of the Colt line, What works on a 51, may not work onna 49, or a 60. Stuff like
that. This basically means, if you buy Slix or Treso for Uberti, that will fit and work on Uberti built '51s, '61s, and '60s. Not so much
anything else in the line. Oh, and incidentally, if your hankering for a 2d Gen Colt to play CAS well, Slix for Uberti slide right into a 2d
Gen Colt (which actually is a Uberti).

When you visit various venders of valorous versions of the variety of STUFF we use, note please, the mostly list thread pitch, number of
threads per inch or per mm without mentioning the actual (if any) firearm they will fit. I find that to be a nuisance.
I'm getting long winded again. It boils down to .....

Caveat Emptor. Watch yer Butt. Lots of pretty stuff out there that doesn't work for beans.

Coffinmaker

Montana Slim · June 12, 2016, 11:46:52 AM

Regarding long/short nipples.....

Yeah, I have a problematic C&B revolver ...and believe the nipples are too long for the fit of the gun. This is a Pietta Spiller & Burr. There is no need for the hammer to make contact with the nipple.. A slight clearance is desired. For the S&B, I believe I'll be better to shorten the nipple rather than the hammer, as this will put the fired cap away from the frame & better overall function.

All of my revolvers have OEM nipples. Some, I've modified to correct diameter & shape...thus making them accept the smaller #10 caps. No Slix or Treso in the lot...no rakes, JB weld, inserts, etc. Other than the S&B, all my C&Bs (mostly Colts) work as close to 100% as one could expect.

Slim

Lefty Dude · June 12, 2016, 02:47:17 PM

Pietta hammer, Tig-welded, rough filed and ready for the final stoneing fitting & polish

Noz · June 12, 2016, 02:52:36 PM

Same, same my fix but I don't have a welder.

Lefty Dude · June 12, 2016, 05:12:48 PM

I have a Grandson who is a Master Welder.

Crow Choker · June 13, 2016, 01:05:28 PM

Quote from: Coffinmaker on June 12, 2016, 11:29:42 AM
He's BAAAAACK!!!!!
Hokay. For the Esteemed Kroker of Chroes.

YAHOOOO!!!!!!!!

Thanks for the info Coffinmaker--yer a Gentleman and a Scholar(not necessarily in that order)!

Cemetery · June 15, 2016, 09:40:34 AM

Quote from: Lefty Dude on June 12, 2016, 02:47:17 PM
Pietta hammer, Tig-welded, rough filed and ready for the final stoneing fitting & polish

Looking forward to hearing how this works out for you.

Lefty Dude · June 15, 2016, 02:24:00 PM

Quote from: Cemetery on June 15, 2016, 09:40:34 AM
Looking forward to hearing how this works out for you.

This is approx. the 8th or tenth 51 or 60 hammer I have made this Hammer modification. All shoot without cap sucking. By having the hammer face flat and square to the cone. The cap stay on the nipple with out distorting. The distortion of the cap face causes the cap to fall off and cause jams and such. I usually must pick the caps off the nipple with a blade or screwdriver.
Also the Hammer face must be fitted to the cones/nipples, as such that the hammer just kisses the cone. Then the hammer face polished.

I have a pair of 51 Pietta's, and I never have a cap jam issue. They have reduced Hammer springs and the cylinders have Slix-shot nipples.