Shotshell roll crimper

[Judge Lead]

It's been a while since I was last here. Have missed a lot of topics 

I am after a roll crimper for plastic shotshells. I am unable to locate one here in Australia and on ebay.
Wondering if anyone on here knows where I can get one. Tried making one, but not all that successful.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Kindest regards,
Judge Lead.

[hellgate]

Here ya go:

http://www.ballisticproducts.com/Original-Roll-Crimping-Tool-12ga/productinfo/ROLL12/

[Sir Charles deMouton-Black]

I don't use by BPI roll crimper anymore, its for sale cheep! there is only one crimp roller, making for lop sided crimps.

I successfully employ a Lyman (12 ga.) and a Precision (16 ga.)

https://www.precisionreloading.com/cart.php#!c=140

[hellgate]

Sir Charles recommended this one:
https://www.precisionreloading.com/cart.php#!q=crimper

[rickk]

I have both the precision reloading crimper and also the BPI crimper.   The Precision Reloading version looks like it should work better, but they both seem to work roughly the same.   

I also have used both a drill press and also a cordless drill. My drillpress is in a workshed in the back yard, and I normally reload in a workshop in the basement, so the drill press isn't all that convenient most of the time. Sometimes in warm weather I will bring mostly loaded rounds out side and use the drill press. I guess the coolest setup would be to have a reloading bench mounted table top drill press but I already have way too much stuff on my reloading bench already.

[Dick Dastardly]

Roll crimps are way cool.  They hold on to the shot column just a mite longer and give the Holy Black a bit more time to get to maximum burn.  So, I have roll crimp tools for .410ga, 20ga, 16ga, 12ga and 10ga.  Yup, I shoot all of them for SASS matches cept for the lil .410ga.  That one's for my Grandson Cowboy.  I want to get him a 28ga but I don't know if clubs would allow it.  I've got my eye on a nice lil CZ 28ga SxS that would really work well. . .

But all that said, the roll crimp is a good closure.  I like to use a roll crimp over a pie crimp for a totally firm closure.

DD-MDA

[Abilene]

There are a couple of antique ones on ebay right now and this one says he will ship to Australia.  I have one like this and works fine.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-12ga-Shotgun-Roll-Crimper-/131487385137?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item1e9d424631#shpCntId

[Jubal Starbuck]

    I  have a roll crimper that is used in conjunction with a drill, but I have also had good luck using an antique roll crimper on plastic shot shells as well as paper ones .  I just put the crimper in a vise, put the shell in and crank the handle fast.  Works fine and is more fun than the drill method.  I have had zero problems with them when I cut the pie crimp off first.  This allows use of older plastic shells with worn out crimps but which are still sound otherwise.  I loaded these for an old original Winchester '87 which had a short chamber.

    Regards,
   
    Jubal Starbuck

[Sir Charles deMouton-Black]

I cut fired shells to 2 1/2 inch for my older shotguns.   

I have also salvaged older type AAs to 2 3/8 inch. Not only does it eliminate most of the split but I can now get an extra shell in the Win '97 mag for Wild Bunch.

[Noz]

IMO the best roll crimps are made by the antique handheld device.  I have the drill press device and do not like it.

[Dick Dastardly]

I used to use an antique roll crimper but then I graduated to drill crimp tools.  The drill tools do a mite better job at putting a little taper on the closure and the heat seems to make a crimp that holds set better.  Also, since I crimp a variety of sizes of shot shells simply changing the drill tool is quick and easy.  I use a MEC Supersizer to hold my hulls under the bench top drill press for nice straight crimps.  I have some old factory shot shells and my crimps compare very favorably with the old factory ones.

FWIW, I've noticed that shotgun slug ammo is closed with the roll crimp.

DD-MDA