Cleaning dirty colt on new year day

[Roosterman]

Bought a farm in oct.2010 and had to quit cowboys shoots, no time to play anymore. Anyway, my last cowboy shoot was in the fall/late summer of 2010 and my '51 navy and '61 navy got put away dirty for the move. Both are piettas. Anyway, cleaned them today and found no rust what so ever. I was probably lubing with either wonder lube or crisco over the ball, and always used lots of it, plus about every two stages usually gave them a shot of balistol on the cylinder pin. Sloppy lubed when ever I shot these and had one malfunction in three years with them (cap frag jam). Oh, was using 3fff BP (real). Between the real BP and lots of lube they were totally unaffected by corrosion. Pretty cool eh?
I figured I could get away with this as between shoots they at times only got the cylinder pin lubed with wonder lube and were off and running again for another shoot.
BTW, I wouldn't recommend this but thought you folks might find it interesting.
Another side note, I shot some loads from a friend that were loaded with T7 in a '73 uberti .45 colt and then shot modern powder the rest of the day, at least another 50-60 rounds of smokeless. I had forget about the T7 and With in 2 weeks I had rust in my cylinders. That T 7 has some bad juju.......

[Galloway]

wow that is cool, were they in pistol cases the whole time?

[rifle]

That is remarkable. Black is supposed to be corrosive and the T77 is supposed to be non-corrosive.  Never would have expected to hear that dirty guns fromblack didn't corrode in that many years. I'd a thunked they would be ruined.

[Blackpowder Burn]

All of the subs are more corrosive than true black powder.  Most are ascorbic acid based.

So...........they cost more and are more corrosive............why would anyone use them if they can get the real stuff? 

[Roosterman]

wow that is cool, were they in pistol cases the whole time?

Nope, just crammed in their holsters. 

[Roosterman]

All of the subs are more corrosive than true black powder.  Most are ascorbic acid based.

So...........they cost more and are more corrosive............why would anyone use them if they can get the real stuff? 

I've been burning real BP since 1980. Dabbled with subs briefly and found no advantage to them, in fact the clean up is far more intense for subs. Subs will eat your guns. Lost a shotgun to pyrodex. Started with a slightly pitted bore which never got worse with BP. Tried pyrodex and could never stop the corrosion in the pits. It's now ate up .

[Coffinmaker]

Real BP is not actually corrosive.  No wild wierc chemicals to attract the steel.  BP is hygroscopic though.  It can absorb and trap moisture which will cause some rust.  If there isn't much moisture present, or if it blocked from the steel ....... No rust.

Subs on the other hand (as mentioned) contain chemicals that are corrosive whether there is moisture present or not.  The worst corrosion I had come into the shop were brass guns (1866 Rifles) that had been put away without cleaning after being shot with Subs.  The carrier Blocks were fusing to the receiver.  Tough cleanup.

I actually shoot Sibs as BP is hard to come by in my area and I clean my guns as soon as I get home from a match or at least within a day or two.

Coffinmaker