Protectant oils/waxes for stocks

Started by TheOtherLeft, September 23, 2014, 07:38:40 PM

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TheOtherLeft

Hi pards,

I have a Uberti 1873 and Stoeger coachgun supreme. They both have very nice timber that I want to maintain. At the moment I give it a general wipeover with Ballistol when I'm cleaning the receiver etc. However I want to use something a bit more hardy on the timber/walnut.

Does anyone have any recommendations as to which oil is best as a "protectant" as opposed to removing the oil/wax and starting from bare timber?

I've been told to use the same oil as what the manufacturer's use. Does anyone know what Uberti and Stoeger use?

Forty Rod

Williamsville Gunstock Wax... if you can still find it.

Put a spot in the palm of your hand and rub, rub, rub until it heats up and disappears.

I've been using it since about 1975 and about through my third 1.5 oz bottle.

Might try Dixie Gun Works or one of the muzzle loading stores.

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40Rod...is this it ?

http://www.amazon.com/Staples-332-W12-Williamsville-Beeswax-8-Ounce/dp/B001O1PQ5S

Honestly, I've just used Skidmores ... which is beewax base as well....
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Forty Rod

That's it.  8 oz should be a lifetime supply.

I got some 1.5 oz bottles and carried one in my shooting bag for years,  Put a dab on a fingertip and sit around the fire at night rubbing it into a stock.

After I gave up the mountain man life it went into a different shooting bag.

BTW, it works well on stag, ivory, and leather... not rough out, though and it will darken most leathers.

It will waterproof boots to a degree but there are better things out there.
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Abilene

I don't think anything is going to penetrate the Urethane finish on the Uberti stocks, unless you have stripped them and given them an oil finish.
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TheOtherLeft

Quote from: Abilene on September 23, 2014, 11:15:18 PM
I don't think anything is going to penetrate the Urethane finish on the Uberti stocks, unless you have stripped them and given them an oil finish.

So in fact there's nothing I can do to it other then keep it clean?

What about the Stoeger?

Major 2

Clean or penetrate ?

Abilene is right that is a sealed finish it won't really benefit from penetrate's
...to clean , maybe use Johnson's floor wax , they use it on Bowling lanes  :-\

Stoegar ? ... what the Shotgun..or the Stoegar imported Uberti's ? ... if Uberti ( see Abilene's thread )

The shotgun ? , the only one I ever owned was in the 90's that one had some kinda stained , light color mystery wood from Brazil.
I think they use higher end woods now  :-\
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Forty Rod

I've used Williamsville on urethane.  It cleans and polishes the finish, but doesn't get through to the wood.

Pretties them up for wall hanging, though, kinda like shining a boot with Kiwi or Shinola wax.
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Blair

Most of the Italian wood finish is hard oil. What we would other wise call boiled linseed oil. This hard oil is applied by dipping the wood, it is quite thick when applied. It also uses some sort of drying agent that helps set it.

I like using natural oils and/or waxes in my stock finishes/sealers.
This usually involves beeswax and boiled linseed oil.
The boiled linseed oil I prefer is the all natural product that one finds in art stores for oil paint artists. This dries hard.
I also like using a drier that helps speed the drying of these products. This is distilled turpentine, also from the Art store.
Heated (in a microwave) and mixed together into the consistency of a paste was, (much like KIWI neutral Shoe polish) applied with a clean cloth like shoe polish and then buffed.
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Coffinmaker

Well ......HALLALUA.... :D
I haven't  had the opportunity to be irratating for a while.  So, here goes .......
There is NO oil application that actually qualifies as a "Finish."  Nor is there an oil application that "protects" wood.  PERIOD  ;D   There are lots of home remedies and lots and lots of old wives tales  :o
After I have up the military I went to several years of formal school and served apprenticeship to become a master woodworker and journeyman cabinet maker.
Oils are used to color and stain wood products.  They don't provide real protection.  Only sealers do that and only to an extent.  Oils can only slow the damage done by other oils (rotted/dis colored stocks from over oiling the gun) and won't prevent water damage much, if at all.  
Uberti uses a filler to fill the pores do the wood with a stain to mimic the stain color used by Winchester and Colt way back in the way back.  Like it or not, that "Uberti" red is pretty authentic.  After the wood filler, stocks (ALL) are the  sprayed with high quality polyurethane varnish.  Stocks are not "dipped."
Now, a little caveat.  There is no way to prevent wood movement.  Annular movement will occur regardless do what yo use as a finish.  The best protective finish I'd a good quality polyurethane varnish.  Lacquer is too brittle.  I happen to like Satin Spar Varnish.  Regardless what you use  since we "handle" our guns, whatever we put on the wood will wear and need to be occasionally redone.
Balistol is is not a finish.  Balistol isn't even a good lubricant.  It will however, soften stiff boots  ::). And it will make gun stocks and pistol grips slipperyer than snot on a door knob when a little wet  :(
There, I feel better now  :D

Coffinmaker  

PS:  Wax?  The only wax you'll ever need is a can do Johnson's Paste Wax.

Marshall John Joseph

Try a product called Wahkon  Bay oil finish.  I have stocks that were scratched and I used this product to build up and hide the scratch.  A couple of drops goes a long way to spruce up most finishes.  Google Wahkon Bay oil.  They sell it at the Log Cabin Shop.  I have used it to finish stocks.  It is a great product.

MJJ

Virginia Gentleman

I have used this company's stock wax and oil that are non petroleum based which is especially good for wood that you want to look period correct.

http://mobygreenproducts.com/

Forty Rod

Got that bottle of Williamsville wax yet?   ::)
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