What size Circle Fly wads for 12 gauge?

[Johnny Dollar]

Hello all!

I tried searching for this but couldn't find it so my apologies if this has been mentioned....

I'm going to start loading BP 12 gauge using AA plastic hulls.  I was going to order some over powder and cushion wads from circle fly but I'm not sure what size to order.  I measured the inside of a hull and see its a bit smaller than the 12ga wads shown.

Do you use the gauge shown or the next size down?

Thanks!

Johnny Dollar

[Cuts Crooked]

I use the gauge shown, 12, and have no problem loading AA hulls with them.

[wildman1]

If yer not sure ask the pard at CF he will be glad to help. wM1

[Lucky R. K.]

For AA's the 12 gauge wads are fine.  If you want to load 12 Ga. brass hulls you need to go a size bigger.

Lucky

[Johnny Dollar]

Thanks much for advice!     

[Driftwood Johnson]

Howdy

I have always used 12 gauge Circle Fly wads with plastic hulls. If you go to the Circle Fly webpage they have a pretty good discussion of how to load shotshells with their wads.

http://www.circlefly.com/html/wad_sizing_chart.html

[Blair]

The only problems I have had with Circle Fly wads was with the over the powder and over the shot wad size between the plastic and/or paper hull wall thickness compared to the thin walled brass hull thickness.
Is this what seems to have folks panties all in a bunch?
My best,
Blair

[wildman1]

I didn't realize yer panties were in a bunch. That explains a lot.    wM1

[Johnny Dollar]

So is that what they call Wild Bunch? 

[Sir Charles deMouton-Black]

So is that what they call Wild Bunch? 

Only when you don't have your (stuff) together

[rifle]

I like to use the red Winchester shot wads and a regulat star crimp. I get 70gr. FFFg in without cutting thr shot cup and more if I cut the cushion part off the back of the plastic shot wad. Sometimes Ilike to load 90gr. FFFg powder,sometimes 100gr. FFFg.

I don't lke the over the shot card or even the over the powder card messin with the shot pattern. The plastic shot cup opens and slows and doesn't usually upset the pattern.

[Sir Charles deMouton-Black]

I like to use the red Winchester shot wads and a regulat star crimp. I get 70gr. FFFg in without cutting thr shot cup and more if I cut the cushion part off the back of the plastic shot wad. Sometimes Ilike to load 90gr. FFFg powder,sometimes 100gr. FFFg.

I don't lke the over the shot card or even the over the powder card messin with the shot pattern. The plastic shot cup opens and slows and doesn't usually upset the pattern.

Those are some skookum loads, rifle. Especially with 3Fg.  More than an equal volume of powder than shot exceeds the law of diminishing returns, and can blow paterns. I have some loads with 80 grains of 2Fg Goex left over from my more enthusiastic days, and the flame is visible in bright sunlight. For Cas targets much lower loads do all we require. I have been using 60 gr of 2Fg satisfactorily, but have switched to 50 gr of 3Fg just recently. The "Boom  - Klang" is still there!

[Blair]

I stopped using the plastic shot cups, of all types, with Black Powder.
This was because of the large amount of melted, now, black plastic I was removing from the bores during washing/cleaning.
I was using 60 grs of 2 fg powder which worked very well. But, even that amount of powder made the barrels very hot with only a few shots. Hot enough to melt the plastic wads during its short time in the bore.
My best,
Blair

[Dick Dastardly]

I'm with you Blair,

Plastic wads and BP don't play well together in my 16ga guns.  Fiber wads do.  Never have a problem with KDs.  55 grains by volume does my work just fine pushing 1oz of shot.  I do use a roll crimp cuz I like it's stronger closure.

DD-MDA