Another Schofield question

rdstrain49 · February 14, 2014, 11:05:29 AM

I have two Schofields, 7" & 5". Both are recent production. Both shoot way left. Looking carefully, you can see the rear sight is milled off center to the left. Anybody else notice this? Thought about replacing the rear sight, but at $65 @ and the possibility of getting another sight that is off center, doesn't seem worth it. May just weld the notch and re cut it.

ammodave · February 14, 2014, 12:10:45 PM

The rear sight on my 5" appears to be dead center and it shoots to the center of the target. Initially it shot a little low until I trimmed the front sight a bit. Have you considered just contacting Uberti and requesting new rear sights? Sounds like a manufacturing defect to me.

rdstrain49 · February 14, 2014, 01:30:28 PM

Both my 7" & 5" are milled left of center. Don't know if another rear sight will be any better. Uberti's QC seems to be slipping a bit of late.

Will Ketchum · February 14, 2014, 01:40:34 PM

Quote from: rdstrain49 on February 14, 2014, 01:30:28 PM
Both my 7" & 5" are milled left of center. Don't know if another rear sight will be any better. Uberti's QC seems to be slipping a bit of late.

You won't know until you try. I would give it a shot. If the new sights are also milled wrong then you will have something to work on. if you mess with the factory sights you will void any chance of having Uberti fix it.

Will Ketchum

rdstrain49 · February 14, 2014, 01:44:23 PM

Uberti won't do anything about POI. At $65 a pop for the rear sight I'm not excited about that option. I'm leaning toward just welding up the notch and starting from scratch on my own.

ammodave · February 14, 2014, 02:01:42 PM

Forget POI. Measure your existing sights with calipers and then determine the machining error. If they're off center, then it's a manufacturing defect and should be covered by Uberti.

Will Ketchum · February 14, 2014, 02:37:25 PM

Quote from: rdstrain49 on February 14, 2014, 01:44:23 PM
Uberti won't do anything about POI. At $65 a pop for the rear sight I'm not excited about that option. I'm leaning toward just welding up the notch and starting from scratch on my own.

How do you know this? Have you dealt with them on this same issue before. Like Ammodave said if the sights were milled off center they may correct that. Just to say they won't without at least checking is a disservice to Uberti and others who may read this. You might be surprised what they may do.

Will Ketchum

rdstrain49 · February 14, 2014, 02:46:41 PM

All ready talked to them. Point of impact is not guaranteed.

Blair · February 14, 2014, 03:31:28 PM

POI may not be guaranteed, but they do offer a guarantee on QC of their product.

If you can show the rear sight was milled incorrectly, that is a QC problem.

However, if you don't feel you will "not" get satisfaction from them... its time to brake out the TIG welder and a fine file.
My best,
Blair

Will Ketchum · February 14, 2014, 03:47:29 PM

Quote from: rdstrain49 on February 14, 2014, 02:46:41 PM
All ready talked to them. Point of impact is not guaranteed.

Your missing the point. Although POA may not be covered shoddy workmanship is.

Will Ketchum

rdstrain49 · February 14, 2014, 04:13:59 PM

I'm not missing anything. Customer service however may be.

matt45 · February 14, 2014, 04:16:42 PM

How does it shoot?

rdstrain49 · February 14, 2014, 04:19:36 PM

The 7" about 1" groups at 25 yards. The 5", not so much. I've not got too deep into it yet, but first impression is that there is a forcing cone issue.

Pancho Peacemaker · February 15, 2014, 05:23:50 AM

My smith recut the forcing cones on mine and it really improved grouping.

Pitspitr · February 17, 2014, 08:09:16 AM

Mine hit way to the left. I got tired of it and grabbed the front sight with a pair of pliers and bent the sight. It looks weird, but it hits where it's supposed to.

rdstrain49 · February 17, 2014, 08:55:28 AM

Pancho, yep, could be a fix. I think however that I will try polishing first simply because the metal is so very thin at the bottom of the forcing cone.

Pitspitr, that is what I was wondering. Seems that I am not alone in my "shoots left" misery.

Pitspitr · February 17, 2014, 09:34:42 AM

Mine had a lot of problems when it came from the factory. Unfortunately I'd had some work done on it before we found all of them or I'd have sent it back. As it was I had an action job done out of the box. Then found that it had no forcing cone, so cut one of those. Then found out that the frame to cylinder clearance in front of the bolt was practically nonexistent and had to grind it down so that the cylinder could turn after it started to warm up. That's when I found out how far it hit to the left. It's a pretty good gun now, but it sure was a PITA when I got it. I own several Uberti models. This Schofield is the only one of their guns I've every been disappointed in.

rdstrain49 · February 17, 2014, 10:23:13 AM

I know what you mean. For what they charge you really should get more than a kit to build a weapon. I have two Schofields and two Russians. For what ever reason, the Russians both seem to be better than either Schofield. Luck of the draw perhaps, who knows?

Pettifogger · February 17, 2014, 06:35:06 PM

You can also make an offset front sight. A lot of old timey smiths did that to correct windage on the old S&Ws. For example, start with a 1/8" think piece of metal. Mill it from one side to the thickness needed to go into the front sight slot. Then mill the opposite side so when you are done the sight from the end looks like a lightning bolt.

rdstrain49 · February 17, 2014, 07:06:08 PM

Great minds do indeed think alike. I just finished an off set front blade. I took a different approach as I don't have access to a mill. Without disturbing the base of the sight, I silver soldered extra material on the left then thinned the right side to my taste. Looks factory and now shoots to point of aim. Thanks for the input. Now I have another question for you about the safety, should it be discussed here or on a new thread?