1875 Outlaw base pin question

[hatman]

Hi all,

I have a few Uberti 73's, one Colt 73, a NV, and Uberti 1858 and 1860 conversions.
I'm now fixated on the Outlaw in 7 1/2 barrel.

In perusing the web for input/advice/experience I ran into this 2010 article from handgunsmag.com:
http://www.handgunsmag.com/2010/09/24/featured_handguns_hg_uberti1875_200911/

There are a couple of disturbing comments about the difficulty of pulling the base pin:
"The cylinder base pin is so tightly fitted to the frame that it must be forcibly withdrawn to remove the cylinder for cleaning."
and
"However, it should be noted that, like the close tolerances of the originals, the cylinder base pins of the 1875 replicas are so tightly fitted they cannot be removed without a little assistance from a brass punch; they certainly won't be shooting loose."

To those of you who have experience with the Outlaw - does this jive with your experience?  
I really hate difficult base pins.  I've had no problems with my current revolvers except my Uberti Stallion .22 is pretty persnickety.
If this is really true, it could be a deal breaker for me.

[Cliff Fendley]

I haven't had as much experience with the Outlaw as I have the Peacemaker clones but I've never noticed them being much of a problem. No different than the SAA Colt styles really, as you said with your stallion, I've seen Peacemaker ones that were tight also.

One thing I have noticed, the Remington Clones I've had experience with all shot extremely well. I've wondered if the web under the barrel has anything to do with their accuracy.

[King Medallion]

I have 2 of the 5 1/2 inch Frontier Models and have had no trouble whatsoever with anything on either.

[hatman]

I have 2 of the 5 1/2 inch Frontier Models and have had no trouble whatsoever with anything on either.

Ahh, good to know.  Thank you.
I've got a bead on a Uberti 1875 with awesome case colors.
And a hole in my pocket. 

[Curley Cole]

I have this pair of 75s and Old Top has a pair and neither of us has had any problem with sticking pins.

curley

[Long Johns Wolf]

I have one of the early Uberti production Remmys in .45 Colt cal. with PC spring loaded tip of the base pin: no issues to get it in or out.
Long Johns Wolf

[Hoof Hearted]

I have 5 or 6 ranging from 1st production to current production and IMHO the author of that statement you quoted had no real experience (probably was fouled from someone shooting black before it was sent to him to evaulate).

Uberti uses the same part number for the 1875/90 and the Colts SAA replica cylinder pin. Stands to reason the holes would be the same on both reveolvers also.......

HH

[Jubal Starbuck]

  I have a pair of Outlaws in .44WCF that I mainly shoot black powder loads in.  I had trouble with sticky cylinder pins early on when they got fouled, so I polished all the blue off them with fine sandpaper and smoothed them further with a very fine grit before reblueing them with a good cold blue.  That did the trick for me.  You might also check them to see if they are bent.

[Abilene]

...Uberti uses the same part number for the 1875/90 and the Colts SAA replica cylinder pin. Stands to reason the holes would be the same on both reveolvers also.......

Actually, the 1875 cylinder pin is Uberti p/n 150021 and is much longer than the SAA (Cattleman) pin which is p/n 400021.

[Hoof Hearted]

Actually, the 1875 cylinder pin is Uberti p/n 150021 and is much longer than the SAA (Cattleman) pin which is p/n 400021.

Abilene

I bet you are right! And I better not use the SAA pin anymore If you use the SAA pin with the "safety" groove in the 1875/90 then it will not work as a "safety" (better not tell anyone that).

Keep in mind there were two different length cylinders used in the 1875/90 though depending on production date!

HH

[willy]

Abilene

I bet you are right! And I better not use the SAA pin anymore If you use the SAA pin with the "safety" groove in the 1875/90 then it will not work as a "safety" (better not tell anyone that).

Keep in mind there were two different length cylinders used in the 1875/90 though depending on production date!

HH

How did you use a SAA pin in the Remington reproduction?

[Cliff Fendley]

How did you use a SAA pin in the Remington reproduction?

I wondered the same thing back when I first read it.

[Flint]

Agree, how can a SAA cylinder pin fit a Remington, they are different diameter as well as the length.  The Remington might use the same cross latch as the SAA...

[Fox Creek Kid]

...Keep in mind there were two different length cylinders used in the 1875/90 though depending on production date!...

Correct, and the earlier (shorter) cylinder models digest BP loads all day long whereas the newer longer cylinders needs a little help. 

[Hoof Hearted]

Agree, how can a SAA cylinder pin fit a Remington, they are different diameter as well as the length.  The Remington might use the same cross latch as the SAA...

Awe Heck........I don't remember!  Maybe Old Pharted should be my name............
I "procured" a home smithed 1875 a few years ago from a patron of the SASS wire that was missing parts. Sure thought that the base pin I used was Colt or Colt repro as it came out of the bin containing all colt parts.

I will get the danged pistol down off the wall and verify....
Stand by!

[Cliff Fendley]

Provided they are the same diameter, which I have not checked, I suppose you might have used a Remington pin in a Colt and cut it off or something but I don't see how you could have used a Colt pin in a Remington.

[Hoof Hearted]

Provided they are the same diameter, which I have not checked, I suppose you might have used a Remington pin in a Colt and cut it off or something but I don't see how you could have used a Colt pin in a Remington.

It was the cross pin, spring and nut.............
Said I had a brain phart, cut me some slack