Horsey Jacknife?

Started by WaddWatsonEllis, May 25, 2013, 10:11:26 PM

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WaddWatsonEllis

Hi,

For reenacting, I thought a jack-nife with a special 'pic' blade for removing pebbles from under horses hooves might be one of those things, as Tsalgidave says, that might be found in the hands of a minor or anyone traveling by horseback .... what do you think?

http://www.caseknifeoutlet.com/proddetail.cfm?ses=7F94EAB5DEA4B280

I sent a note to Big T about it ....
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"Courage is being scared to death and saddling up anyway." John Wayne
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pony express

Doesn't "look" period to me. As for practicality, from my memory of messing with horses(mostly during my prior marriage) Some of the gunk you scrape out of a horses' hoove can be a bit smelly, I probably wouldn't want to stick it back in my pocket after cleaning hooves, then later use the same knife to peel an apple, or something like that.

WaddWatsonEllis

Hi,

Point Taken ...then what did you use to clan between the hoof and the horse=shoe?

TTFN,
My moniker is my great grandfather's name. He served with the 2nd Florida Mounted Regiment in the Civil War. Afterward, he came home, packed his wife into a wagon, and was one of the first NorteAmericanos on the Frio River southwest of San Antonio ..... Kinda where present day Dilley is ...

"Courage is being scared to death and saddling up anyway." John Wayne
NCOWS #3403

Major 2

Here you go Wadd, these are from the 1880's 
Photos are from the net... I don't own them

However I do own a Collins Horseman in this design with Rosewood scales
when planets align...do the deal !

Major 2

I have one of these as well
when planets align...do the deal !

pony express

Well, I'll be darned! I guess it is a possible period correct item! The ones we used were sort of a bent piece of small rebar, looked like this:

http://www.bing.com/shopping/hoof-pick/p/75F80BD6AF18DFF15003?q=hoof+pick&lpf=0&lpq=hoof%2bpick&FORM=CMSMEE

Kept it hanging on a nail on the side of the shed, right beside the curry-comb.

Of course, the period correct blacksmith made ones would look a lot better than our made in China model. I like the folding hammer-pick model Major showed.

St. George

Not even remotely like an original knife.

What was/wasn't common are those shown by Major2 - but they were large knives - not built for the pocket.

These were carried in the saddlebags.

The folding hammer/hoofpick is nice - I found one years ago in a Cavalry camp near Brandy Station.

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WaddWatsonEllis

Hi,

That is why I wanted an opinion ... I have tentatively bought this knife ... hey ! The price was right to carry in a pocket ... I was always taught that a folding knife should have two or more blades ... which this has ... and it has a kind of 'Old Time' look to it ...

http://www.kvsupply.com/5-blade-horsemans-knife-wcase/&refcode=google
My moniker is my great grandfather's name. He served with the 2nd Florida Mounted Regiment in the Civil War. Afterward, he came home, packed his wife into a wagon, and was one of the first NorteAmericanos on the Frio River southwest of San Antonio ..... Kinda where present day Dilley is ...

"Courage is being scared to death and saddling up anyway." John Wayne
NCOWS #3403

WaddWatsonEllis

P.S.

Thanks to all you who gave input .... and if you ever run into a better horse knife for sale, let me know!

TTFN,
My moniker is my great grandfather's name. He served with the 2nd Florida Mounted Regiment in the Civil War. Afterward, he came home, packed his wife into a wagon, and was one of the first NorteAmericanos on the Frio River southwest of San Antonio ..... Kinda where present day Dilley is ...

"Courage is being scared to death and saddling up anyway." John Wayne
NCOWS #3403

Major 2

Wadd

Those are made in India or Pakistan, they are  ::) well ... better than nothing ,   :-\ a little better that is.



when planets align...do the deal !

WaddWatsonEllis

Major 2,

Thank you for the heads up ... since I don't own or use a horse, I will have it to show ... and I will always have my sheath knife on me for the real work ....

TTFN,
My moniker is my great grandfather's name. He served with the 2nd Florida Mounted Regiment in the Civil War. Afterward, he came home, packed his wife into a wagon, and was one of the first NorteAmericanos on the Frio River southwest of San Antonio ..... Kinda where present day Dilley is ...

"Courage is being scared to death and saddling up anyway." John Wayne
NCOWS #3403

GunClick Rick

Make sure ya get a dog to go with it.. :)
Bunch a ole scudders!

WaddWatsonEllis

Rick,

Good point ... a friend is trying to get me to get a Schipperke (I hope I spelled that right). Would that make a good 'horse dog'?

http://www.akc.org/breeds/schipperke/index.cfm

TTFN,
My moniker is my great grandfather's name. He served with the 2nd Florida Mounted Regiment in the Civil War. Afterward, he came home, packed his wife into a wagon, and was one of the first NorteAmericanos on the Frio River southwest of San Antonio ..... Kinda where present day Dilley is ...

"Courage is being scared to death and saddling up anyway." John Wayne
NCOWS #3403

Sir Charles deMouton-Black

I remember seeing pictures of an auction of some of Lt W.W. Cooke's weapons.  The auction was held in Alberta in April 1999 and included a Remington revolver and a pocket knife I remember as a farriers or horseman's knife.  I've just spent a couple of hours on the net trying to find the details without success.  As I recall the revolver was without provenance or markings but the knife was marked as the property of Cooke.  Cooke was Custer's adjutant and the one whom wrote the note to Benteen - bring packs.

If anyone can help find pictures or other details, you are welcome.

It seems to me that a serious horseman would have some method of clearing his mount's shod feet.  If a hoof pick was not an issue item, I'd be surprised if a knife or at least some makeshift tool would be found on his tack or his person.
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GunClick Rick

Quote from: WaddWatsonEllis on May 26, 2013, 05:34:12 PM
Rick,

Good point ... a friend is trying to get me to get a Schipperke (I hope I spelled that right). Would that make a good 'horse dog'?

http://www.akc.org/breeds/schipperke/index.cfm

TTFN,

If he eats the shavings he's a good horse dog. ;)
Bunch a ole scudders!

Major 2

Saw this one just this morning

as listed...

W.H. MOZLEY, SHEFFIELD & HASTINGS...MULTI-PURPOSE POCKET KNIFE, 1860'S ERA
This solved all your problems, when stuck in the frontier , with limited carrying space. This knife, with ivory slabs, contained just about an answer to all possible problems. It has a  cork screw, small blade, cutting/chopping large blade, hoof pick, awl punch for leather, and a hidden sewing needle which inserts into the handle ( shown in image ). Even a screw driver tip at one end of the knife case !   PRICE $325
when planets align...do the deal !

ChurchandSon

The Swiss Army knife dates back to 1887...Here is the latest, "The Giant"...$1600.00..
I gonna need a bigger pocket...I don't see a hoof pick but I think you can build the horse with it

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WaddWatsonEllis

Church & Son,

Too True ... LOL
My moniker is my great grandfather's name. He served with the 2nd Florida Mounted Regiment in the Civil War. Afterward, he came home, packed his wife into a wagon, and was one of the first NorteAmericanos on the Frio River southwest of San Antonio ..... Kinda where present day Dilley is ...

"Courage is being scared to death and saddling up anyway." John Wayne
NCOWS #3403

Camano Ridge

That looks like a Gun Click Rick Special, the only thing it is missing is a pocket watch pouch.

GunClick Rick

Bunch a ole scudders!

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