New Sharps Owner

[Grenadier]

Just traded for my first buffalo gun this past weekend. I picked up a Pedersoli made Quigley Sharps. Beautiful rifle and I am very impressed with the quality worked put into this piece, kinda hard to believe its a production run.

Now the bad news....I cannot find anything to feed her     45/70 seems to be more scarce than .223 at the moment.

[Ranch 13]

 If you was real smart you'ld sell that thing for whatever you can get out of it and run before the sickness completely consumes you
Find some 45-70 brass 2f blackpowder, primers , 030 fiber wads , and cast bullets from 480-500 grs and shoot the thing the way it was intended to be shot.

[MJN77]

These are listed as in stock at the moment.
http://www.trackofthewolf.com/Categories/PartDetail.aspx/137/2/AMMO-G-45-70-350

[AlaskaJack]

I agree totally.  Sell it before you get bit....sell it to me.  I'll place it with the 2 others I already have......

[Freedom]

Gongrads!!!

Yep...the Sharps is a lot of fun....but as other have warned, if you add a good tang sight, some 500+gr cast slugs and REAL black powder...it wil totally consume you ....

Oh, and don't for get the leather!

[Sir Charles deMouton-Black]

Henry Kranke in England has Starline brass in stock, but it seems like its backordered almost everywhere else, including Canada.

[Karl]

I have had some luck finding odd brass through these folks: http://www.buffaloarms.com/Search.aspx?TERM=.45-70 

[Sir Charles deMouton-Black]

I have had some luck finding odd brass through these folks: http://www.buffaloarms.com/Search.aspx?TERM=.45-70 

I just checked;  Buffalo are on "backorder" status for .45-70 ammo and cases!

[wildman1]

Just visited the People at Captec and they are doing an order of 45/70 for Buffalo Arms. WM

[minerotago]

Buffalo Arms are exceptionally good to deal with - I wanted a scarce mold and they put it on back order and I still had it within four weeks.
Give them a call and see how you get on.

Loaded cartridges
http://www.buffaloarms.com/45_70_Government_Black_Powder_Ammunition_it-158178.aspx?CAT=4443

If I needed 45-70 I would buy 60 loaded cartridges plus a mold and gear for reloading. For brass only Bertram Brass is possibly the way to go though I am a bit sceptical of them as I have had some problems with one lot of brass I have from them...the rims are too thin.

[Jayhawker]

The doggone things multiply too...





and cause time travel

[Bruce W Sims]

OK...pop quiz, folks...

Does anyone remember the advice Quigley gave the gunsmith for reloads? 

Best Wishes,

Bruce

[Blair]

"use the #2 British Musket lead."
I am not sure if that is an exact quote, but it imparts the meaning of his reply.
My best,
Blair

[Bruce W Sims]

"use the #2 British Musket lead."
I am not sure if that is an exact quote, but it imparts the meaning of his reply.
My best,
Blair

Marston:  Ah ha. Legendary Sharps. –

Quigley: You know your weapons. It's a lever-action, breech-loader. Usual barrel length's thirty inches. This one has an extra four. It's converted to use a special forty-five caliber, hundred and ten grain metal cartridge, with a five-hundred forty grain paper patch bullet. It's fitted with double-set triggers, and a Vernier sight. It's marked up to twelve-hundred yards. This one shoots a mite further.





Gunsmith: Highly unusual calibration, Mr. Quigley. This will take some time to duplicate.
Quigley: No, sir, it won't. You can substitute a 450, number two British musket lead.


"Good on ya"!!--- as they say Down Unda....

[Blair]

Bruce,

Back at you!

What cartridge caliber and firearm, "#2 British Musket lead" was Mathew referring to?
My best,
Blair

[Bruce W Sims]

Bruce,

Back at you!

What cartridge caliber and firearm, "#2 British Musket lead" was Mathew referring to?
My best,
Blair

Oh, hell...... I got myself into some deep doo-doo now.....

I wanna say the Martini-Henry but I'm thinking that didn't come along until later.
Wasn't there some sort of Enfield or something that came before that?

[Blair]

Bruce,

The paper patched .450-577 Martini-Henry.
Not one is depicted in the film that I can recall.
My best,
Blair

[Herbert]

The No 2 musket cartridge was a Westley Richards drawn case(the No 1 musket was a foil case)basically a 50 necked down to 45 with a charge of 85 gr fine rifle powder and a .45 paper patched bullet,it is still thought of as one of the best black powder cartridges made,many fine match rifles and hunting rifles can be found chamberd for this cartridge,it was also used as a military cartridge by some European countries thoug not called the No 2 musket

[Bruce W Sims]

The No 2 musket cartridge was a Westley Richards drawn case(the No 1 musket was a foil case)basically a 50 necked down to 45 with a charge of 85 gr fine rifle powder and a .45 paper patched bullet,it is still thought of as one of the best black powder cartridges made,many fine match rifles and hunting rifles can be found chamberd for this cartridge,it was also used as a military cartridge by some European countries thoug not called the No 2 musket

Hmmmm....foil instead of paper......very interesting

I wonder what a BP pistol would do with that.......

[Herbert]

The foil was the case (brass foil wrapped on a iron base to form the case)the bullet was paper patched