Pre-Production Sample of the new Thuer Conversion

[Sir Charles deMouton-Black]

Hoofhearted; I am ready for one of them for my 1860 Pietta.

[Hoof Hearted]

Hoofhearted; I am ready for one of them for my 1860 Pietta.

My contact info is at my website 

[rifle]

I like the looks of the conversion. Looks like a real Thurer. Why the THURER trade mark? No one else could call a Thurer lookin conversion a Thurer?

The fact it shoots regular ammo but looks like a Thurer is a plus for the logical practical minded. This conversion would be reliable. Actually work.

The achilis heel of the actual Thurer design was the ammo and the ultra precision machining that it and the chambers needed to work properly. 

I don't see the provision for loading in the pics. Is loading accomplished by removing the barrel?

If the cylinder gap a pistol has is normal then will the conversion be the same without changing how the percussion cylinder fit.

Are there normal throats to the cylinder of the conversion if heeled bullets aren't wanted ?

Does the firing pin have a spring to it?

[Hoof Hearted]

Wow! Lots of questions 
Thanks for the compliments!
Thuer® is my registered trademark

Loading is accomplished by pulling the barrel and then the cylinder, can't insert a rimmed cartridge from the front of a cylinder! hence the tapered Thuer original cartridge and the problems that have been pointed out many times before.........

These, at the present time, are hand fit by me in order to ensure fit and interchangeability with the stock cylinder.

To answer your cylinder throat question I would need to know what chambering yoiu are asking about, shoot me a PM or call me.

A firing pin return spring is unnecessary in this deign and there is a SAFE position in the pivoting conversion plate.

Regards, HH

I like the looks of the conversion. Looks like a real Thurer. Why the THURER trade mark? No one else could call a Thurer lookin conversion a Thurer?

The fact it shoots regular ammo but looks like a Thurer is a plus for the logical practical minded. This conversion would be reliable. Actually work.

The achilis heel of the actual Thurer design was the ammo and the ultra precision machining that it and the chambers needed to work properly. 

I don't see the provision for loading in the pics. Is loading accomplished by removing the barrel?

If the cylinder gap a pistol has is normal then will the conversion be the same without changing how the percussion cylinder fit.

Are there normal throats to the cylinder of the conversion if heeled bullets aren't wanted ?

Does the firing pin have a spring to it?

[rifle]

Hoof,
The 44 Colt (modern) using the 44cal. bullet in a sleeved 1860 barrel is what I was referring to. The 44 Colt with the .429 bullet.
The heelbullet is cooler but......the inside lubed 44 size bullet is easier. Compare the sleeving the barrel cost to the cost of the dies and mould and see which is better.

It would be interesting shootin the ---- bout the conversion. Things like whether or not it would be good to have a "hand" especially for the Thurer conversion and change that out when the conversion is used.

Wondering........do the other makers of the conversions still hold patents or are they run out?  Would the rotating conversion plate make a Thurer different enough in mechanical attributes?

Would a Thurer trade mark conversion not overlap into some other patent?

I've never seen a real Colt bullet mould that wasn't delapidated to hell to notice any taper to the heel of it. Never held or seen a real Thurer cept in pics in books. I know how they work and all. The original patent drawings show a tapered case with the front of the case ,where the heel fits, with parallel sides and the chamber front parallel there too.....I thought anywhooo....
I was informed about that by a guy that knew a guy with an original Thurer. Told the original blue prints weren't followed exactly.

Anyway the Thurer Trade mark conversion is pretty niffty with the "safety"position to the conversion plate. Best way to make use of the eject position to an original and get some extra authentic-ness to the new Thurer conversion. I mean...what good would a non rotating Thurer be?  ha ha ha ha Gotta have something rotated for some reason to be like a Thurer.

[Lefty Dude]

My Centaure/thuer conversion is a 45 colt chambering. I loaded 45 S &W cases with a 200 gr. conical Lee bullet which is sized & lubed .450" the powder charge is 23.5 gr's of APP by volume. The conversion cylinder/chambers has throats and all measure .4505".
I have not shot the piece enough to make a report for HH. I will when I have the time this next month.
I also loaded some 200 gr. RNFP, sized .452" with the same powder charge. I will state that the Conical .450" is a much better choice.
The cartridge over all length I selected is 1.430". This length is fine for the Thuer conversion.

More on a range report later.