Pre-Production Sample of the new Thuer Conversion

[Hoof Hearted]

For your perusal.............






Showing the FIRE position above.......


The eject position is now a  fool proof SAFETY position!


This one is Nitre Blued so that it will STAND OUT

Here are three pics of the Ring fitted in an Army:








Keep in mind the production pieces will be hot blued to match the Italian pistols with an emphasis on high polish for the 2nd generation (3rd's also) Colts revolvers.
The new screws will be flush in the sides of the rings (they are still being machined) and the screws and firing pins will be Nitre blued.
Also the thumb piece will be checkered as the originals were.........

Fire away with the questions, please!

[swampman]

Absolutely a work of art. Any pics or video of it firing? Does this mean my life-long desire for a Thuer may come true? Can they be had in nickle?

[Hoof Hearted]

Absolutely a work of art. Any pics or video of it firing? Does this mean my life-long desire for a Thuer may come true? Can they be had in nickle?

I guess I could get a video, but yes your dream will come true
I don't do nickle but we could have Fords in Florida do it!

[Hoof Hearted]

I have 25 cylinders for the 1860 Army and 25 in Navy (1851/61) in this first batch.
Planned calibers for the Navy are 38 Colt and 41 Colt and the Army in 44 Colt and 45 Colt.

As soon as the fixture for checkering is completed they will be available and these first 50 will be timed and tuned at no charge to the customer!

HH

[swampman]

I guess I could get a video, but yes your dream will come true
I don't do nickle but we could have Fords in Florida do it!

LOL, I don't know why I got hung up on the nickle plating question. I still haven't gotten around to sending off to Ford's the '51 you worked on for me last year. I can't stop shooting it long enough.      It's still in bare steel.

And what happened with your actual Thuer you were building? I think you were at prototype stage for the ammo?

[Pettifogger]

Absolutely Beautiful!!!  If they are in .38 and .45 Colt they aren't Thuer's are they?

[Hoof Hearted]

Absolutely Beautiful!!!  If they are in .38 and .45 Colt they aren't Thuer's are they?

Well I like the first part............
The second is just downright mean

But all joking aside, let me pose this question:

Is a Henry in 45 Colt or 44 WCF a Henry? Fact is dern near all the reproductions we play with are in currently available cartridges and not their original chamberings.

I have a Registered trademark for the name Thuer® so by gosh it's a Thuer!

[Hoof Hearted]

LOL, I don't know why I got hung up on the nickle plating question. I still haven't gotten around to sending off to Ford's the '51 you worked on for me last year. I can't stop shooting it long enough.      It's still in bare steel.

And what happened with your actual Thuer you were building? I think you were at prototype stage for the ammo?

It was the inspiration for me to invest in this project
It and about 50 other firearms just hang on the wall in the walk in without ever being shot..........maybe I should stop fixing other pards guns and devote some time to that

Yer pal, HH

[Blair]

pettifogger,

I feel the same way.
I would like one for a '51 Navy made by Euroarms, but?

[Hoof Hearted]

Bunch of Negative Nancy's

I know we are all friends so how about this:

Three options

First send me the requisite $2500 or so plus all the import and duty and ATF fees along with Plane Fare and motel/food/taxi fare and I'll go over to Germany and pick one up for you from Nedball.

OR

Invest in my company and I'll make you a couple one offs...........

OR

Buy one that looks correct and that you can actually shoot

Choice seems pretty simple, huh?


Think about it as though it is a Thuer design applied after the Rollins & White patent expired by Colts to use the common and available ammunition.

[Blair]

Hoof Hearted,

I don't know what the asking price is for this device.
However, (this is just my opinion) if I am going to buy something call a "Thuer conversion", that is what I want.
Not something I can say is a Thuer and then pretend it is... well, it is something that it ain't.
Too much of that want-to-be-something-that-it-ain't, is already going on.

You do marvelous work, please don't take my statement wrong?
  Blair

[Sir Charles deMouton-Black]

PMd you.

[Hoof Hearted]

Blair

Major2 passed your sentiments on to me after the NCOWS authenticity committee met.
While I understand and sympathize with your wants I do feel that my reply regarding caliber vs LOOK has more validity in todays marketplace.

The name Thuer did apply to the conversion as well as the ammunition.

This is completely "tongue in cheek":
Would you like it better if I named it the Hoof Hearted?

Hoof Hearted,

I don't know what the asking price is for this device.
However, (this is just my opinion) if I am going to buy something call a "Thuer conversion", that is what I want.
Not something I can say is a Thuer and then pretend it is... well, it is something that it ain't.
Too much of that want-to-be-something-that-it-ain't, is already going on.

You do marvelous work, please don't take my statement wrong?
  Blair

[petrinal]

some Thuers were made by german armorers a few years ago, accurate to the original THUER patent. It seems that some  italian manufacturers rejected mass production because of the complexity of the conversion and scarce reloading cases.


http://www.1960nma.org/Conversions/Conversions-The%20Making%20of%20the%20Centaure%20Thuer%20Conversion-11.02.10.htm

I remember, as this web page says, that the german distributor HEGE (who distributed for years italian replicas for the german market) had  a few years ago some units for sale of these new Thuers, at atonishing prices.

it is really impossible to manufacture an accurate replica of a Thuer conversion at an affordable price, it takes too much machining that would make the gun cost more than a ROLEX , as you can see.

congratulations for this conversion, it looks like a beauty, in both machining and finish.

[Pettifogger]

Not a negative Nancy, just asking.  I love the look.  But, I thought you had made some actual Thuers a while back.  These are wonderful and since they are chambered for modern ammunition will be a lot more shootable.  But since they don't take Thuer ammunition I wasn't sure they were "Thuers."  Kinda like going to look at a 1970 Hemi-Cuda and opening the hood and finding a 383.  Still a heck of a nice car that I would love to own, just not what I expected. How are you going to sell these?  Kits?  Completed guns?

[Blair]

My thoughts and feelings too.

[Hoof Hearted]

Thanks for clearing that up. I do appreciate you both!

Of course the completely real Thuer can be done as evidenced by Nedbal's work for Long John......

Some folks do not understand the costs invloved and I don't want to bore you with the amount of work/time/dedication and MONEY it takes to get to this point in production (but I will share that I could not find REAL checkering by an engraver for less that $40 each and doubt that anyone would want to pay for that on a production basis). Besides I think others have stressed that point.

I guess I was a bit punchy trying to get some advance notice out there for all of you while worrying that the "authentic" police would take issue with every little detail (and I am as anal as any of ya'll ).

They will be available any way you want them. The first 50 (25 Army and 25 Navy) will be fitted/tuned for free and sold as "drop in" like the other products on the market. But you can get anything you want here like in "Alices Restaurant"

Want 44 Special, yea I'll do it. Want barrel liner, yep! Want longer cylinder so you can shoot factory round nose, sure thing. How about special finish, OK, hand checkering, the patent dates, whatever. I WORK FOR YOU!!!

Not a negative Nancy, just asking.  I love the look.  But, I thought you had made some actual Thuers a while back.  These are wonderful and since they are chambered for modern ammunition will be a lot more shootable.  But since they don't take Thuer ammunition I wasn't sure they were "Thuers."  Kinda like going to look at a 1970 Hemi-Cuda and opening the hood and finding a 383.  Still a heck of a nice car that I would love to own, just not what I expected. How are you going to sell these?  Kits?  Completed guns?

[Pettifogger]

How much and when?  A pair of Navy's in .38 would be neat.

[Hoof Hearted]

It's going to be a couple weeks, maybe three before I get the checkering done and I am waiting on the screws that I had made to spec. The website's domain has been purchased........ www.thuerconversion.com
But it isn't up yet (won't launch until finished product is ready)

My agreement with the Marshal is to not post prices here and he allows me to supply info about products and services as a service to our members

Call me, my number is on the website..... www.cartridgeconversion.com

How much and when?  A pair of Navy's in .38 would be neat.

[Hoof Hearted]

Army Thuer pics added to the opening post!