OFFICIAL New Model Army (1858) thread (post picture here)

Started by Hoof Hearted, November 23, 2012, 03:41:27 PM

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Hoof Hearted

I have thought about doing this for a while.
Over on "The High Road" there are OFFICIAL threads for the different models so I am going to do the same thing here.
Many of us like to show off our pistols and this will give us a place to do so w/o "hijacking" our pards threads ;)

Rules are simple with "no axe grinding" taking precedence, followed by "stick to the topic" (no other models posted, please), then if you want to stray off topic, please search for like posts and/or start one of your own.........

Thanks, HH
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Swifty Morgan

Very good idea!!!
I need to call you guys for a little R&R of my 58's!

Hoof Hearted

Here's a pair of Remington "Avenging Angels" I built this summer for a pard..........






They received Kirst Conversions, hammer checkering and a subtle reshaping of the grips and frames......


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Hoof Hearted

This is a "Rare Bird"!
The story goes............it's a tool room conversion in 22 short.........currently on loan to Walt kirst and it was his inspiration for the 22 Kirst Konvertor!









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Wolfgang

Beware the man with one gun, he probably knows how to use it.

WaddWatsonEllis

Hi,

After all those goodies, I am hesitant to show my '58 Remmie ... but it had some fun stories to it ... I used it as a 'mold' when I vacumm-molded the Cavalry style holster... wrapped it up in three bread bags and it survived the molding just fine ... then I smothered the outside of the holster in Skidmores ... which I am guessing drove all the moisture inwards ... the next morning, the Remmie looked like it had sat in the rain all night ... it had a light coating of rust over the gun ... most bluing gone ...

Raven said he would look at it and ended up re-bluing it so that it looks new ... for not a whole lot of money .... and now I have a pistol that almost looks too pristine for the 'battlefield donation' that my character should have had ... but the holster looks like it was ridden and slept in ...





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Major 2

I'm in ...
here is my NMA Factory Conversion circa 2006
The photo was taken when this very pistol was the subject of a Gun Test Article.
I have since, re finished the Grips to a pleasing Oil rubbed finish.

With 45 Black Hills Ammo this one is perhaps the best POA in 45 Colt I own.
It will be inside 1 1/2 " at 21' & spot on POA.
when planets align...do the deal !

Chaparosa

Kirst conversion; silver plated trigger guard by Hoof Hearted himself. :)

Capt. Jack McQuesten

I have three Pietta 1858 New Army's. Two are the "Sheriff's" Models with 5-1/2" barrels and one is the standard 8" version. I have a Howell's 5 shot conversion cylinder in ,45 Colt that fits all three. I would love to pick up another conversion cylinder so I can have a pair of New Army's to use in CAS.



Here is one of my "Sheriff's" Models with the conversion cylinder installed:

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The Trinity Kid

Here is my brand new Pietta .44 New army with 8" barrel.(Due the the size of the pictures, I can only post one at a time).  Now I wait for Kris Kringle to bring the belt/holster and load fixings.  I also picked up an original powder flask at a pawn/ gun shop(the same one I got my Winchester from,  great place)for $20!  I haven't gotten a picture of it yet, but it is pretty nice lookin'.   Merry Christmas all, and to all a good shooting session.

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Thomas (Tom) Horn aka James Hicks

I have a Uberti 1858 that I bought too many years ago and have only shot it with BP and I have not shot it that much. All it was doing was collecting dust in gun safe... So I figured why not convert it, I ordered the Kirst Konverter along with the Spring Ejector Assembly (I know the spring ejector is not historically correct, but it works good.) Used my dremel tool with grinding stone and went to work converting it. After completing the project, I took the '58 to my club's Long Range monthly shoot... we shoot the pistols at 50 yard targets. The Kirst Konverter worked VERY WELL. I loaded 45LC with OAL's of 1.55" the '58 had no problem with these cartridges. At 50 yards the pistol is very accurate with it's 8" barrel. I also tried it at the 100 yard targets and was very impressed with the ability to hit what I aimed at. It did very well at both 50 and 100 yards. The 45LC were loaded with 17.7 grains of 5744 with cotton filler underneath a 255 gr RNFP bullet. Very accurate...here are some pictures of my DIY conversion, I am very pleased with it. I also got rid of the Uberti finish on the walnut grips (after soaking the grips in stripping agent, I still had to scrape the grips to get it off... really a hard finish to remove.) I then sanded the grips and stained with brown leather dye and hand rubbed them with boiled linseed oil. They look more original now. I am very pleased with the conversion.
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Tornado

I found this under a tree in my living room a couple days ago:

Hoof Hearted

WOW!

Looks like Santa is in the conversion business too........ :P
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Tornado

I got that off the Wire a couple of months ago, I'm glad it finally found a good home.  I will be sending the gun to you in a few months for some work, once I work up the funds  ;) .

Hoof Hearted

COOL!

It would look real nice defarbed and with the sail corrected ;)
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Tornado

OK I'll bite, what is the difference between an original and the Pietta sail?

Hoof Hearted

Quote from: Tornado on December 28, 2012, 09:56:49 PM
OK I'll bite, what is the difference between an original and the Pietta sail?

If you look at pics of an original New Model Army (the "58" is a copy of) you will see that the "sail" portion of the rammer on a copy is "bulbous" where it meets the round portion of the rammer (towards the front) and that it has an exaggerated curve or belly towards the hinge at the frame.

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Thomas (Tom) Horn aka James Hicks

This is for all the cowpokes WHO WANT TO BITE and know the DIFFERENCE between the Itailian '58's and the REAL THING in regards to what Hoof Hearted talks about when he states "correcting the sail".  I will also add... "This is not so easy to do" correcting the sail ... sounds easy, but getting that "inverted curve correct"... is not as easy as it looks.  Here a picture of a Remington 58 New Model that was manufactored during the Civil War closeup showing the sail and the rammer as it fits in the frame rammer port channel.  You can see the difference in the Itailian sails and the original.
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