OFFICIAL 1851 thread (post pictures here)

Started by Hoof Hearted, November 17, 2012, 11:08:16 AM

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Halfway Creek Charlie

The Reb's did produce Colt copies with Brass Frames because the south did not have the styeel resources that the North did, so the "reb" names. there were Griswold (sic) and Gunnison, and Leech & Rigdon that built Colt Copies for the south during the Civil war. Unfortunately as stated above, the Reb designation of the 51' 44 is only a marketing ploy. there were never any, North or South, 44  1851 Colt or Colt Copy.

That said, enjoy your new Pistola, and learn to shoot it, study and research. We have all been where you are now.
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Quote from: Halfway Creek Charlie on January 12, 2013, 10:03:35 PM
The Reb's did produce Colt copies with Brass Frames because the south did not have the styeel resources that the North did, so the "reb" names. there were Griswold (sic) and Gunnison, and Leech & Rigdon that built Colt Copies for the south during the Civil war. Unfortunately as stated above, the Reb designation of the 51' 44 is only a marketing ploy. there were never any, North or South, 44  1851 Colt or Colt Copy.

That said, enjoy your new Pistola, and learn to shoot it, study and research. We have all been where you are now.

Charlie, the Confederate brass framed revolvers based on Col. Colt's design were the Griswold & Gunnison (approx 3700 made) and the Schneider and Glassick (<50 made).  The other brass framed revolver was the Spiller & Burr (< 1500 made) which was a copy of the 1861 Whitney revolver, and the Cofer revolver (around 100 made).  The Leech and Rigdon, Rigdon and Ansley, and CH Rigdon Augusta models (combine total of around 2500 made) were iron framed. All of which (brass & iron) were .36 caliber.

There were some iron framed .44 cal revolvers made; albeit very few.  The JH Dance and the Tucker and Sherrard; but they were based on the 3rd model Dragoons.

Slamfire, as Charlie said, enjoy your new pistola.  AFAIC, any BP C&B revolver is better than none.  My first one was a brass framed .36, and I still have a few.

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Halfway Creek Charlie

Thanks for clearing that up that. I am not as up on the CSA mfg.'s as I should be. I knew about the Dance Bros, having seen an original at a show once. Never knew the L & R was Steel Framed.
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Shooting History (original), Remy NMA Conversions, 1863 New Model Pocket Model C.F. Conversion, Remy Model 1889 12Ga. Coach Gun
2nd. Gen. "C" Series Colt 1851 Navies
Centennial Arms/Centaur 1860 Armies
1860 Civilian Henry 45LC (soon to be 44 Henry Flat C.F.(Uberti)
Remingon Creedmore Rolling Block 45-70 (Pedersoli)

"Cut his ears off and send them to that Marshall in Sheridan" Prentice Ritter

Artificial Intelligence is no match for Natural Stupidity
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Slamfire

Many thanks to ya'll, i'v been read'n on here & other sourses about 1800's ( fire arms). The pard i bought my .44 from also has a .36 ( reb) never fired,,same weight & size ,,didn't want to sell. After seeing some of the 51 conversions ,i'm  highly impressed, and i know that's what i want,,,,just  which one ,,51, 60, or 72,, i got'a get off here my little head hurts.






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carolina_cowboy01

One of my first posts. After having a pair of Cimarron MWNN conversions (one with snakes on both sides like Blondie's and one plain like Tuco;s) I had to have something a little extra. When I saw these on GB these had to be added to the collection. 1851 Colts with Kirst Conversions + sleeved barrels so they will shoot regular flat nose .38 specials with hand carved Hickok Liberty Eagle elephant ivory grips done by Jerry Meacham.




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griswold

There was one more .44 colt copy made for the south during the war for independence from the North. It was made in Richardson Texas by the Richardson Arms Company, based on the 2nd model Dragoon. They only made a few when the hostilities ceased and the occupation started an still continues. They were ironed framed.
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carolina, nice indeed!  Those wood grips have some nice figure to them as well.
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My ASM (I Think) .44 Cal '51 Colt .... I know, I know, the gun that never was ... but it was cheap used and the larger bore goes 'Boom' better for reenacting ....

My moniker is my great grandfather's name. He served with the 2nd Florida Mounted Regiment in the Civil War. Afterward, he came home, packed his wife into a wagon, and was one of the first NorteAmericanos on the Frio River southwest of San Antonio ..... Kinda where present day Dilley is ...

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Maybe instead of saying "the gun that never was" it should be "the gun that should have been" or "the gun that they wish they did if they had the technology we do today".  ;)
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WaddWatsonEllis

Hi,,

I have to admit that I  like this weapon, even tho I have never fired a bullet with it ...only lots and lots of floral foam ... it goes 'BOOM' 90% of the time....

And even though I do not do bullets in it, it is nice to know that in a real situation I could trust on the bullets to do the damage necessary ...

TTFN,

My moniker is my great grandfather's name. He served with the 2nd Florida Mounted Regiment in the Civil War. Afterward, he came home, packed his wife into a wagon, and was one of the first NorteAmericanos on the Frio River southwest of San Antonio ..... Kinda where present day Dilley is ...

"Courage is being scared to death and saddling up anyway." John Wayne
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Major 2

In a sticky thread, I showed the transformation of this one.

It is Pietta I acquired in a trade for some leather work....

It has had the grip re-profiled  & the barrel "lawyer inspired" roll script removed & polished ( de-farbed)
I've shortened the barrel to 5 3/16 " like the original it replicates.

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Mighty Fine one there, Major 2........Dusty

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yippie! Here's my brandy-new Colt Navy from Pietta, along with some others...

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Figure for my first post, I'd share some pics!!!  
Here's my collection of 51's, with my Damascus Bowie and Pedersoli 2 row side by each!!



The 3 '51 long barrels are .44, the shorty is an 1861 in .36. The Bowie is from Anderson Forge.


We do CW reenacting mostly, but at times do a Bushwacker impression. I made a double cross draw shoulder rig out of harness leather and rivets!!

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Pair of 2nd Gens.  One a first year & one from 1974


Fingers (Show Me MO smoke) McGee;
SASS Regulator 28654 - L - TG; NCOWS 3638
AKA Man of many Colts; Diabolical Ken's alter ego; stage writer extraordinaire; Frontiersman/Pistoleer; Rangemaster
Founding Member - Central Ozarks Western Shooters
Member - Southern Missouri Rangers;
NRA Patron Life: GOA; CCRKBA; SAF; SV-114 (CWO4 ret); STORM 327

"Cynic:  A blackguard whose faulty vision sees thing as they are, not as they should be"  Ambrose Bierce

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