OFFICIAL 1851 thread (post pictures here)

[Abilene]

Here's a few of Cimarron's 1851 show guns that I had a chance to take pictures of:

This one has Bar-S Tru-Ivory grips.  I'm not sure if it is in the white or "antique nickle" that they used to offer.


This is actually just an off-the-shelf Uberti offering with micarta grips and laser-engraving:


This one that is labelled "Hickock" on the box has Turnbull case-colors, I think.  Not sure if the grips are ivory or not.  This gun is what inspired me to get charcoal blue engraved conversions.

[StrawHat]

Glad to see not all the 1851s have been converted, someone needs to keep the originals the way they were in this thread!  I am the odd man out in this thread as I have never really gotten to fond of the 1851.  Just not my cup of tea.  That said, I did have a couple,

Here is the first one.



And the other one.

[Billy Bristol]

My 1851 sheriffs

top is a Pietta and bottom is an ASM

[buckskin billy]

a second generation colt made in 1971. with a colt 3 way tool, a  dixon bag flask and a john cohea knife with bark ivory handles and damacus blade. words can't describe and pictures dont do justice for this set up

[buckskin billy]

and what i like to call my 3 senoritas.

1971
1974
1976 one of 500



the one of 500 is a shooter to. 6 shot group at 15 paces. the bottom bullet holes are from one of the other guns

[Slamfire]

Hope this is the right place to ask this!!! Just picked up a 1851 " brass case", from a friend of mine,it has a "B D" stamped in a square ,i know it's to tell the  date      of mfg. ,but i"v lost my copy ( or list) of dates anyone,,,,help it is .44 cal.7 1/2 " new never fired NIB.






  Hootmix

[Slamfire]

CORRECTION!!!!!! it's "BZ" not BD,, .







   Hootmix.

[Major 2]

BZ=2005

[Slamfire]

Thanks, Major 2, now i need the one for "BD",,,,,this gun's gett'n older by the minute!!!!!! I'v never even held a 51 before,now i own one.  It is heaver than i thought it would be, but it feels handy, and fairly well balanced. The hammer seems to be a bit stout,how much can i light'n it up ,or do these c&b's need more than ,,,say my 75's???





   Hootmix

[Fingers McGee]

Thanks, Major 2, now i need the one for "BD",,,,,this gun's gett'n older by the minute!!!!!! I'v never even held a 51 before,now i own one.  It is heaver than i thought it would be, but it feels handy, and fairly well balanced. The hammer seems to be a bit stout,how much can i light'n it up ,or do these c&b's need more than ,,,say my 75's???
  Hootmix

Here's a date code list.  Not the latest; but, current enough.



The spring needs to be stiffer than for a cartridge gun.  You can lighten it up some.  Really depends on how stiff it is to begin with.  The older models had some really stiff (3/4 ton truck) springs and can benefit just buy getting a new spring from Taylor's or VTI.  Put some Slix Shot nipples on it, and you can get a reduced power mainspring for an SAA that will make the pistol feel like greased lightning.

[Slamfire]

  Fingers,,,Major 2,, Many thanks . It appears this 51 is a 94 model ,,,i will have more questions about what i can & can't do with a brass framed unit ,,i don't really shoot "BP",,BUT I SURE LIKE THE FEEL OF THI PIECE.






  Hootmix.

[Halfway Creek Charlie]

I like the feel of all the '51's, just seem to point and hit where you point and shoot.
I would like to try the "Never Was". The Pietta '51 44. As I understand that one has the navy frame(in 44) and grips. The only reason I don't have a '51 currently is that I shoot 44's.

[Slamfire]

 Howdy ,Halfway , Like i stated befor, this 51 has never had a cap snaped on it. But from what i'v been reading here on the forum's ye can't convert the brass frame to shoot cartrages. I'll just play with this one you know sort of get the feel of handleing  and pointing, maybe later trade for a steel frame or one already converted. I have been told the differance between army & navy,, but holing this navy,,,, i  now know what the boys were talking about.



  Hootmix.

[Slamfire]

Hey Halfway, the navy 51 i just picked up says pietta .44 on the barrel, but the frame is brass am i thinking wrong here, or does pietta  mean steel frame ? And i discovered,, my big ,narrrrrley hands are the wrong size for navy frames ,but  man it still  feels handy. I  been thinking a 72 ( army) would be nice,and if they fell as good as the 51's ,,oh well  i'm still look'n & learn'n.

[Halfway Creek Charlie]

I think they make/made both the brasser and the steel frame in the "NeverWas" 44 '51 Colt repro. but I do not know for sure.
"NeverWas" is reference to the fact that Colt never produced the "51 in 44 cal.

[Slamfire]

Thanks Halfway,, some of this info., never was- never is - never should -never will ,,,,but why didn't they?? ,o'l son i got me some learn'n to do.



  Hootmix.

[Major 2]

Capitalism     it's in the name of making money

[Halfway Creek Charlie]

Even though I refer to them as "NeverWas" I would like to handle and shoot one in steel frame to see if it points and handles as well as the '51 36's do. The 1860 NMA 44 is just too big for my small hands for me to do it justice, were as, the 51 Colts are just about perfect. They would be perfect if made in 44. IMO!

[Slamfire]

Halfway,,soooo what your say'n ,,is this "1851 REB. Nord NAVY cal. 44" ( authantic repro. by F.LLI Pietta ) is really a " never was"?

Is that because it wasn't made in .44 ,,,#%*#%* the more i try to ask about this the mooore cornfused i are. I better luuk up some history on this here computor. 


  All help is really appreiciated.


  Hootmix.


 

[RattlesnakeJack]

As already indicated, this particular Colt configuration - and the "Navy" designation applied to it - was a .36 caliber revolver only.  Also, with this reproduction being referred to as a "Reb" I assume it is brass framed .... something else Colt never made!  (Not strong enough ....)