Hege-1858 Remington

[Buzzard II]

Does anyone know who sells the Hege-1858 Remington?  It's also known as the Hege-Army Match Maximum.  Thanks!
Bob

[Pettifogger]

http://waffen-hege.de/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=1207

Probably no one in the U.S.  Call them.

[Professor Marvel]

Thank you my Good Pettifogger -

"SET Vorderlader Revolver Remington New Army 1858 Match Cal.44, Blei-Rundkugeln, Zündhütchen, HEGE STICK, Verdaemmungspfropfen"


Herr Google Tells us:
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No. 300,232 Remington New Army 1858 match
. Production: Hege-Uberti with 8 "octagon-eagle run in caliber .44 and an adjustable front sight (dovetail) HEGE special treatment: parts such as the drum axis, the drum front and the rear part of the frame are Teflon coated - with Teflon paste of Dypont later aftertreat.

The weapon is designed as a match rifle, with select run, and precise timing. It has a large forged frame. Pistons as we recommend produced specifically for this weapon HEGE turbo beryllium Pistons (the set for a special price of 70, - Euro for buying weapons).
If the weapon can be used as a weapon wheel, we recommend redesigning the trigger (on your weight) and Punkthärtung (under protective gas) corresponding cams (see gold line) for 99, - Euro.
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Apparently the Hege is a special run of the  Uberti 1858, with more extensive heat-treating and designed as a fixed-sight target pistol. 

I particularly admire the "HEGE turbo beryllium Pistons" (tubes or nipples) and I am impressed at the ability to tune the trigger by "redesigning", and the use "of corresponding cams". I do prefer to use my Remmies as "a weapon wheel".


For ANY who care, the "Verdaemmungspfropfen" is not in fact a "damned proofing", but translates to  "tamping plug" which is in fact "felt wads".


google translate is fun

yhs
prof marvel

[rifle]

I know Pedersoli sells a Remington and they may be available here from a Pedersoli dealer like Beauchamp and Son at House of Muskets. I believe the Pedersoli may be a Hege Remington but don't quote me on that one. The Pedersoli Rem has that slick band around the cylinder so the bolt doesn't mark it up.
I got info once about the rifling and the depth of it for a Rodgers and Spencer and a Remington. The Remington had rifling depth of .001 inch. for the Rem and .003 for the R&S. "If I'm remembering right".
Anyway I bet the Pedersoli importer ,Beauchamp. could shed some light on whether or not the Pedersoli Rem is actually a Hege Rem.
Personally,I never wanted to pay the money for a Hege or Pedersoli when I could take agood bet on a Uberti or Pietta Rem having a good barrel. It's all in the barrel. People used to,maybe still do, have Badger barrelsmounted on Pietta's and use those to compete.  I've heard Badger barrels didn't accumulate fouling much.
I have three Pietta Rems(one being the "Shooters Model) and the wife has one standard that's carved grips and antiqued(cool gun). The barrels must be good to go in all four since they seem to be as accurate as a cap&baller can be.That's with ball or 45 Colt cartridge in a conversion. I don't believe the conversions fit the Pedersoli or Hege and I know they don't fit well in the Pieta Shooter Model.
Anywhooooo......take a chucking reamer and do a good job of sizing the chambers of a Pietta,or Uberti, to equal or exceed by .001-.003 inch the rifling depth in the barrels making sure the alignment of the chambers to the bore is spot on and......I bet after that they would shoot neck and neck with a Hege or Pedersoli Remington. Well....a nice trigger job breaking the trigger like the snap of a glass rod at two pounds would be a good idea fer target shooting also.
The idea of the rifling being shallow in the high end target Rems doesn't apeal to me. The Pietta "Shooters Model" will shoot neck and neck with any Rem out there and it has normal rifling depth(progressive rifling too) so it can shoot more than light target loads without the balls stripping the rifling. Those are nice guns right out of the box.The price reflects that but......a standard Pietta or Uberti with the chambers sized right with the alignment checked are accurate enough fer me and I believe would shoot neck and neck with the best of them....if you get a gun with a good barrel. It's a toss up with the Italian guns but a real good bet the barrels will do a good job. Of course it would be a good idea to check the forcing cones and muzzle ends of the Italian barrels to ensure they are right and concentric with the bore. The muzzle end being concentric is important. A slight bit off there and it shows on the target with any gun. The muzzles need protected from the wrong type cleaning rods too.
Anywhoooo.....I don't need any frying pan stuff like teflon on my Rems. The right lube on the powder in the chambers and one the base pins do good enough fer me.I shoot all day with my lube pills on the powder and a good lube on the base pin. Cylinders keep turning and the barrels stay plenty clean enough to maintain good accuracy. The lube/wax gets splashed down on the front of the base pin keeping fouling out of the cylinders central hole. The lube pill traveling and melting some on the barrel walls keeps fouling from building up.  Of course.....if shooting 45 Colts or conicals from the percussion cylinder the bullets with wide lube grooves are a big positive asset.
Anywhoooo.....I don't have any Hege or Pedersoli Remingtons so I can't make a fair judgement of them. I guess I can ,what's that wierd word, estrapolate?, have an opinion based on the little bit of knowledge I've retained.
Just thought I'd share some "shootin the shit" with ya Hombres and Hombretes.

[Professor Marvel]

Ahh My Dear Rifle

It is a pleasure to see you here again, obviously you have overcome your confusictor computer issues!
thanks for your post, they are always a pleasure to read and I often save them off for future reference.
I think I may make a compilation CD of the posts I archived which will include your posts, Pettifoggers, Dutch Bills,
Mako's and a number of other scholarly (in my opinion) types.

yhs
prof marvel

[Buzzard II]

Sent out e-mail to Hege-hope they read english cause I don't read/write german.  Anyhoo, I went to Winchester, Va. this past weekend for the N-SSA Fall Nationals and found that Tri-L Machine from Ohio will take a stock Uberti 58 Remington and change the barrel to a pistol rifled barrel, change the cylinder to match and do a complete action job.  Looks like a good deal.  Rob has a good ruputation for building accurate competition guns for N-SSA shooters too!  I probably will go in that direction.