Anson Mount's Remington

PJ Hardtack · September 05, 2012, 01:11:09 PM

Now that Anson Mount is shooting a Remington .44 in the new episodes of 'Hell On Wheels', I like mine a whole lot more.

He says that gun safety is a lot more important on the set using cap & ball guns as they are all 'real' guns and he has a healthy respect for them even loaded with a blank charge. I regret that he will be doing the Clint Eastwood cylinder changing bit. Not historically correct, but oh, so cool .... ;>(

I've thought about it at times, but looking at that charged and capped cylinder reminds me too much of a grenade. Dropping one doesn't strike me as a good idea.

GunClick Rick · September 05, 2012, 03:52:18 PM

Everybody pull your pistols and point at the other guy.You just did a scene in HOW,seems that's all they do,swish point,swish point,Oh well,better than nothin,has The Way West started again yet,did i mis it?

Danny Bear Claw · September 06, 2012, 07:54:11 AM

I was showing pics of my cowboy gun collection to a friend of mine, (a Cherokee woman), and though not real "gun savy", she pointed at the pic of my cartridge converted 1858 replica Remington and remarked what a beautiful gun it is. I said wow... you do have an eye for fine firearms. I do love that revolver. A pain in the neck to reload but a hell of a lot of fun to shoot!

GunClick Rick · September 06, 2012, 03:05:36 PM

Ain't had a chance to load or shoot mine yet,well i had the chance just ain't done it yet~

PJ Hardtack · September 09, 2012, 06:33:17 PM

I popped the Kirst 5 shot .45 Colt cylinder out of my latest Pietta Remington .44 and put the cap & ball cylinder back in.

I them proceeded to shoot three consecutive 6 shot groups Duellist-style at 15 yards that surprised me. All were under 2", and right on point of aim.
I don't think I could have done better with a cartridge gun; ANY cartridge gun.

yeti76620 · September 09, 2012, 09:39:31 PM

Tough luck fellas... Looks like Anson got his Griswold back tonight!

He sure did a nice job swap'n out the cylinders of the Remie dur'n thee gunfight....

PJ Hardtack · September 10, 2012, 10:19:25 AM

Yeah ... I want to see him do it with one of my Remington .44s after 3 or 4 cylinders have been fired. I need a mallet to tap the cylinder pin forward.
And what was that Reb robber doing with his Colt 'wedgie' in pieces? Was he doing the 'cylinder swap reload' as well, or did his gun just fall apart?

'The fastest reload is a second gun' - gunfighting dictum following 'It's the first shot that finds the mark that wins, not the first shot fired.'

Fingers McGee · September 10, 2012, 10:29:42 AM

Quote from: yeti76620 on September 09, 2012, 09:39:31 PM
Tough luck fellas... Looks like Anson got his Griswold back tonight!

He sure did a nice job swap'n out the cylinders of the Remie dur'n thee gunfight....

Pure Hollyweird that the Canadians have decided to emulate. No basis in historical fact. The bad guy showed just why it was never done during battle.

GunClick Rick · September 10, 2012, 05:09:33 PM

Was the guy that plays the Swede in Into The West also?As the husband of the young couple that gets married on the wagon trail to Ca. Hell they don't even use good blanks on the show!Sound like cap guns $:-\$

PJ Hardtack · September 10, 2012, 06:37:44 PM

I too, am disappointed with the piddly blanks used on the show. Surely, they can do better.

I watch the show for the human drama, the ironic twists and turns of the plot. I'm surprised how many parallels there are in the story line to the actual building of the Canadian Pacific Railway - strikes and Indian problems included. The patience, forebearance and outright bravado of a few Mounties at critical times defused potentially explosive situations.

The fledgling Mounted Police had the unfortunate duty of acting as strike breakers as the railroad was deemed essential to the welfare of the nation. The railroad shantytowns and hordes of camp followers, whiskey peddlers and other low life types were the norm, making the job of 'keeping the peace' difficult.

The fact that we didn't have an outright Indian war is remarkable, especially after the Perce Nez and the Sioux crossed the Medicine Line to escape the vengeance of the US Cavalry. All of a sudden, there were many more Indians than ever facing off against a handful of Mounted Police.

The 1885 Rebellion under Louis Riel was the 'Last Hurrah' for the Metis, who failed to enlist the full support of the various tribes. They had no hope of winning against the might of the Crown, but they fought valiantly for the justice of their cause. The CPR was completed just nine months before Riel was hanged, the days of the ox cart and canoe over.

GunClick Rick · September 11, 2012, 11:30:36 AM

Sort of like how California is now~

Sir Charles deMouton-Black · September 11, 2012, 01:02:29 PM

Quote from: GunClick Rick on September 11, 2012, 11:30:36 AM
Sort of like how California is now~

What? No oxcarts or canoes?

Wolfgang · September 11, 2012, 07:58:05 PM

Quote from: PJ Hardtack on September 05, 2012, 01:11:09 PM
Now that Anson Mount is shooting a Remington .44 in the new episodes of 'Hell On Wheels', I like mine a whole lot more.

He says that gun safety is a lot more important on the set using cap & ball guns as they are all 'real' guns and he has a healthy respect for them even loaded with a blank charge. I regret that he will be doing the Clint Eastwood cylinder changing bit. Not historically correct, but oh, so cool .... ;>(

I've thought about it at times, but looking at that charged and capped cylinder reminds me too much of a grenade. Dropping one doesn't strike me as a good idea.

Not hysterically coorect ? Why ? See the article by Spangenberger on page 19 of the May 2012 issue of True West. I don't know how much of the "Pale Rider Reloading" was actually done, . . . but the extra cylinders to do it were available and often supplied with the pistols.

GunClick Rick · September 11, 2012, 08:29:31 PM

Quote from: Sir Charles deMouton-Black on September 11, 2012, 01:02:29 PM

What? No oxcarts or canoes?Heck we got sail canoes~

"human drama, the ironic twists and turns "

bowiemaker · September 12, 2012, 12:39:03 AM

The Pony Express riders sometimes carried an extra loaded cylinder for their Remingtons.

Drayton Calhoun · September 16, 2012, 11:46:56 PM

I believe there are even a couple of pics in the leather forum of original rigs with spare cylinder pouches.

GunClick Rick · September 16, 2012, 11:55:59 PM

Well when he did the takeout and replace move,dey was no lead balls in da cylinder

GunClick Rick · September 17, 2012, 12:01:49 AM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oj-ERuCEe-w&feature=related

Fingers McGee · September 17, 2012, 12:05:45 PM

Quote from: bowiemaker on September 12, 2012, 12:39:03 AM
The Pony Express riders sometimes carried an extra loaded cylinder for their Remingtons.

Remington .31 caliber pocket pistols that is. The Army and Navy Remingtons did not appear on the scene till the end of the Pony Express' existence.

Blair · September 17, 2012, 01:46:07 PM

What is it with all these non-histoicasl hand guns on this program?
I could get into the story line a lot better if what they were calling a Griswold was actually a copy of a Griswold & Gunnison Revolver, instead of an 1860 Colt Army with a brass frame. (which, of course, was never made!)
Do these types of historical discrepancies bother anybody else?